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Soggy pie crust

by Sarita C » Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:33 am

Every year we go up to Bryant's Blueberries and pick about 20 pounds to freeze to get us thru the winter. My husband is a blueberry fanatic and love blueberries in just about anything. I've tried at least a half a dozen times to make a blueberry pie but it seems more often than not the bottom crust is soggy or I get a cooked bottom crust but the pie is overcooked and the crust on top is next to burned. Does anyone have any tips on how to bake a pie that has a crisp bottom and golden top? I'm not much of a baker although I've been trying to bake more since we got a new convection oven.
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Re: Soggy pie crust

by Becky M » Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:47 pm

I just saw an episode of Americas Test Kitchen and they were talking about blueberry pie. The method that they came up with was cooking the blueberries and adding grated apple and thickening with tapioca. It was really interesting and when they showed the differences in the pies on the show it was REALLY noticeable. Traditional can get a soggy crust because the blueberries have so much juice. I copied the recipe from their site so you could look it over.



Blueberry Pie
from the Episode: The Best Blueberry Pie


This recipe was developed using fresh blueberries, but unthawed frozen blueberries (our favorite brands are Wyman’s and Cascadian Farm) will work as well. In step 4, cook half the frozen berries over medium-high heat, without mashing, until reduced to 1 1/4 cups, 12 to 15 minutes. Grind the tapioca to a powder in a spice grinder or mini food processor. If using pearl tapioca, reduce the amount to 5 teaspoons. Vodka is essential to the texture of the crust and imparts no flavor; do not substitute.

Makes one 9-inch pie

Foolproof Pie Dough
2 1/2 cups unbleached all-purpose flour (12 1/2 ounces), plus more for work surface
1 teaspoon table salt
2 tablespoons sugar
12 tablespoons cold unsalted butter (1 1/2 sticks), cut into 1/4-inch slices
1/2 cup vegetable shortening , cold, cut into 4 pieces
1/4 cup vodka , cold (see note)
1/4 cup cold water

Blueberry Filling
6 cups fresh blueberries (about 30 ounces) (see note)
1 Granny Smith apple , peeled and grated on large holes of box grater
2 teaspoons grated zest and 2 teaspoons juice from 1 lemon
3/4 cup sugar (5 1/4 ounces)
2 tablespoons quick-cooking tapioca , ground (see note)
Pinch table salt
2 tablespoons unsalted butter , cut into 1/4-inch pieces


1 large egg , lightly beaten with 1 teaspoon water


See Illustrations Below: Looks Can Be Deceiving
1. For The Pie Dough: Process 1 1/2 cups flour, salt, and sugar in food processor until combined, about two 1-second pulses. Add butter and shortening and process until homogenous dough just starts to collect in uneven clumps, about 15 seconds; dough will resemble cottage cheese curds and there should be no uncoated flour. Scrape bowl with rubber spatula and redistribute dough evenly around processor blade. Add remaining cup flour and pulse until mixture is evenly distributed around bowl and mass of dough has been broken up, 4 to 6 quick pulses. Empty mixture into medium bowl.

2. Sprinkle vodka and water over mixture. With rubber spatula, use folding motion to mix, pressing down on dough until dough is slightly tacky and sticks together. Divide dough into 2 even balls and flatten each into 4-inch disk. Wrap each in plastic wrap and refrigerate at least 45 minutes or up to 2 days.

3. Remove 1 disk of dough from refrigerator and roll out on generously floured (up to 1/4 cup) work surface to 12-inch circle, about 1/8 inch thick. Roll dough loosely around rolling pin and unroll into pie plate, leaving at least 1-inch overhang on each side. Working around circumference, ease dough into plate by gently lifting edge of dough with one hand while pressing into plate bottom with other hand. Leave dough that overhangs plate in place; refrigerate while preparing filling until dough is firm, about 30 minutes.

4. For The Filling: Adjust oven rack to lowest position, place rimmed baking sheet on oven rack, and heat oven to 400 degrees. Place 3 cups berries in medium saucepan and set over medium heat. Using potato masher, mash berries several times to release juices. Continue to cook, stirring frequently and mashing occasionally, until about half of berries have broken down and mixture is thickened and reduced to 1 1/2 cups, about 8 minutes. Let cool slightly.

5. Place grated apple in clean kitchen towel and wring dry. Transfer apple to large bowl. Add cooked berries, remaining 3 cups uncooked berries, lemon zest, juice, sugar, tapioca, and salt; toss to combine. Transfer mixture to dough-lined pie plate and scatter butter pieces over filling.

6. Roll out second disk of dough on generously floured (up to 1/4 cup) work surface to 11-inch circle, about 1/8 inch thick. Using 1 1/4-inch round biscuit cutter, cut round from center of dough. Cut another 6 rounds from dough, 1 1/2 inches from edge of center hole and equally spaced around center hole. Roll dough loosely around rolling pin and unroll over pie, leaving at least 1/2-inch overhang on each side.

7. Using kitchen shears, trim bottom layer of overhanging dough, leaving 1/2-inch overhang. Fold dough under itself so that edge of fold is flush with outer rim of pie plate. Flute edges using thumb and forefinger or press with tines of fork to seal. Brush top and edges of pie with egg mixture. If dough is very soft, chill in freezer for 10 minutes.

8. Place pie on heated baking sheet and bake 30 minutes. Reduce oven temperature to 350 degrees and continue to bake until juices bubble and crust is deep golden brown, 30 to 40 minutes longer. Transfer pie to wire rack; cool to room temperature, at least 4 hours. Cut into wedges and serve.




Step-by-Step: Looks Can Be Deceiving

Pretty But Pasty
Too much tapioca (or the wrong thickener, such as flour or cornstarch) results in a filling that holds its shape but tastes gluey and dull.
Fresh But Soupy
With no thickener at all, there is plenty of fresh berry flavor, but the filling is loose and runny.
Step-by-Step: No-Fuss Top Crust

We used a 1 1/4-inch biscuit cutter to cut holes in the dough, but a spice-jar lid will also do the trick.
Step-by-Step: The Apple of My Pie

ON THE LOOSE
Pie filling thickened without enough tapioca won't firm up. But too much tapioca leads to gumminess.
ALL FIRMED UP
A little tapioca plus a grated apple created a juicy but sliceable filling.
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Re: Soggy pie crust

by Sarita C » Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:36 pm

I'll try both. One of my husband's fondest childhood memories was going out with his grandfather to pick wild blueberries. They could not leave until they had enough for at least a couple of his grandmother's blueberry pies.

Thanks a bunch ya'll!

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Re: Soggy pie crust

by Sarita C » Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:26 am

The recipe looked pretty daunting so I cheated...sort of.

I had a bunch of "frozen pie filling" that I made from Alton Brown's recipe last summer so I let that thaw out, put in a pan and cooked it for awhile and added some fresh blueberries (just because I love they way they look when they are not totally cooked). Then I took a Kroger pre made crust, rolled it out and brushed it with egg white on both the bottom and top crusts.

It came out BEAUTIFUL and very tasty. Thanks a BUNCH for your tips.

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Re: Soggy pie crust

by Becky M » Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:45 pm

Sarita im glad your pie came out well. The recipe did seem a little involved, but i think the main thing was cooking the blueberries down so that some of juice will escape and reduce.

Enjoy!

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