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Re: Fresh whole turkey

by JustinHammond » Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:05 am

I just can't make myself pay $72-$100 for a turkey, but if it's in your budget this seems to be a good deal.

http://www.bourbonredturkey.com/prices.php

NOW IS THE TIME TO ORDER...
2010 prices for Bourbon Red Turkeys will be $6.00/lb
•USDA inspected
•Superior Quality
•Fresh (frozen upon request)
•All natural, no additives
•Free range, home raised
•No growth hormones, antibiotics, chemicals or pesticides
and we are keeping our prices down in order for more people to experience the extraordinary flavor of this Heritage Turkey


HURRY!!!!! Orders are coming in and time is running out!
Place your order today!!


Pick up Time and Place
DATE: Saturday, November 20, 2010 *
TIME: 11:00 AM
PLACE: Rainbow Blossom (Back Entrance) (map)
(St. Matthews Market)
3738 Lexington Road
Louisville, KY 40207

*Please bring copy of invoice

SHIPPING IS ALSO AVAILABLE (cost of turkey + shipping) - contact Kathy for details.
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Re: Fresh whole turkey

by Steve P » Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:52 am

John Hagan wrote:
Steve P wrote:.and at $1.69 a pound, I'll look the other way when it comes to Turkey abuse.


I guess thats what surprises me about this issue. There are a good many folks on this forum who will not buy the cheapest bourbon,lowest price wine,cheap cigars and so on. When it comes to meat though,I get the impression that lowest price is one of the biggest factors helping their decisions.


Hmmmm....Good point and and what you are saying is true but I don't know that I have an answer for ya. I mean I could go into a short dissertation on why I don't buy the high priced stuff, but obviously that wouldn't speak for why other folks do it...
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Re: Fresh whole turkey

by John Hagan » Thu Nov 04, 2010 10:22 am

Steve P wrote:I mean I could go into a short dissertation on why I don't buy the high priced stuff, but obviously that wouldn't speak for why other folks do it...


But you do...just not meat though.
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Re: Fresh whole turkey

by Steve P » Thu Nov 04, 2010 10:24 am

John Hagan wrote:
Steve P wrote:I mean I could go into a short dissertation on why I don't buy the high priced stuff, but obviously that wouldn't speak for why other folks do it...


But you do...just not meat though.


Yeah but we're talking Bourbon...which I happen to like a LOT better than Turkey :wink: :roll:
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Re: Fresh whole turkey

by John Hagan » Thu Nov 04, 2010 10:38 am

That illustrates my point. You are willing to drop big bucks on liquor but not a holiday meal that comes along once a year. Im not saying there is anything wrong with that,it just surprises me.
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Re: Fresh whole turkey

by Brad Keeton » Thu Nov 04, 2010 2:00 pm

John Hagan wrote:That illustrates my point. You are willing to drop big bucks on liquor but not a holiday meal that comes along once a year. Im not saying there is anything wrong with that,it just surprises me.


It's a good point, John, and I agree, and I would prefer to purchase a better quality, more humanely treated turkey for Thanksgiving. I generally purchase most of my meat from Kingsley's or from the farmers markets. This is my first foray into a turkey of this realm, however, and the price differential from Butterball ($1/pound) to the local, happy turkeys ($5+/lb.) just seemed huge. I was guessing the locals would run roughly $3/lb., or 2-3 times the cost of a mass-produced bird, but was not expecting to have to pay 4, 5, or even 6 times that amount.

I'm pretty sure the cost differential of, say, mass-produced chicken and the free-range chicken I get at Bardstown Road isn't that great, which begs the question of whether the local folks are jacking up prices BECAUSE it's for a holiday meal that comes once a year. I'm not a fan of price gouging, regardless of who is doing the gouging.
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Re: Fresh whole turkey

by John Hagan » Thu Nov 04, 2010 2:50 pm

Brad, not sure if saw the link I posted earlier....four dollar per lb.

Also you stated...."I'm pretty sure the cost differential of, say, mass-produced chicken and the free-range chicken I get at Bardstown Road isn't that great"

Really, how did you arrive at this conclusion? I would be willing to guess the production cost of a local chicken is close to ten times as costly to produce than commercially produced birds.
One example,speaking turkey,it takes Anne and I about six months to finish a turkey. A factory raised bird using growth hormones is finished half that time. Also take in account the feed costs,processing costs,labor...the list goes on and on.
Just think that if you were producing a product at home,lets say shoes for example. Do you think you would be able to offer those shoes at a price that is competitive with Nike? The idea that these local producers are price gouging you is outrageous. They are selling their product for fair market price, otherwise they would not be in operation.
This goes back to my original question, why do folks feel entitled to receive local craft produced meat for the same price as mass merchandised factory produced meat. Nobody I know expects to get Pappy at the same price as bottom shelf liquor. I dont know anybody that thinks a burger at Jacks should be similar in price to WC slider. I would not feel compelled to ask Roger at NABC to sell me a keg at the same price as Bud lite. I could make many examples here but Im sure you get the point.
Is it just that simple that people dont know how expensive it is raise small scale livestock/poultry? Is it due to the fact that meat not considered a final product,just an ingredient? I guess this is just another problematic issue that stems from the general public being educationally apathetic as to where their food comes from.
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Re: Fresh whole turkey

by JustinHammond » Thu Nov 04, 2010 3:03 pm

John Hagan wrote:Brad, not sure if saw the link I posted earlier....four dollar per lb.

Also you stated...."I'm pretty sure the cost differential of, say, mass-produced chicken and the free-range chicken I get at Bardstown Road isn't that great"


I took Brad's statement to mean that the % increase for farm turkey vs factory turkey is much greater than % increase for farm chicken vs factory chicken.

Chicken at Kroger = $2 lb
Chicken at Farmers market = $3lb

That is only 50% more vs the 300% or 400% increase on turkey.
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Re: Fresh whole turkey

by John Hagan » Thu Nov 04, 2010 3:25 pm

JustinHammond wrote:
John Hagan wrote:Brad, not sure if saw the link I posted earlier....four dollar per lb.

Also you stated...."I'm pretty sure the cost differential of, say, mass-produced chicken and the free-range chicken I get at Bardstown Road isn't that great"


I took Brad's statement to mean that the % increase for farm turkey vs factory turkey is much greater than % increase for farm chicken vs factory chicken.

Chicken at Kroger = $2 lb
Chicken at Farmers market = $3lb

That is only 50% more vs the 300% or 400% increase on turkey.


Ok I can see that. I read it differently. Im not sure about the percentages you speak of though. Steve P got a bird for just under two bucks a pound,I gave a source for birds around four bucks. Double for sure but not 400 percent. Again,back to my point...even if it is a 400 percent increase,why would you feel this is not justified? Nobody is making you go to the farmers market and buy a local craft produced piece of meat. Im not seeing the connection to price gouging. Its very simple,if the cost vs value does not make sense for you,dont buy it. I think its in poor taste to go around screaming"price gouging" when a particular item you want is priced out your perceived value range.

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Re: Fresh whole turkey

by Steve P » Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:02 pm

John Hagan wrote: I guess this is just another problematic issue that stems from the general public being educationally apathetic as to where their food comes from.


I seem to recall our having this and/or similar conversations at least a couple of times...and my hazy recollection is that at least one of these conversations was conducted at my bar over a bottle of Woodford Reserve. I also seem to recall that in conclusion we (a) agreed that we can disagree and (b) that we will always be "brutha's from anotha mutha". So in the interest of keeping peace in my extended family, I'm going refrain from further contributions to this particular conversation. :wink:
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Re: Fresh whole turkey

by John Hagan » Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:31 pm

Right on my man..... 8)
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Re: Fresh whole turkey

by JustinHammond » Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:37 pm

John, I'm with you 99%. Brad's price gouging question was related to the season, not farmed turkey in general. He was asking why the costs % increases from factory turkey and chicken to farm turkey and chicken were so different. Is it always that way, or is the pricing related to the holiday? I would much rather have a farm turkey vs a factory turkey, but the price difference is drastic.

12lb factory turkey = $18 or less
12lb farm turkey = $48 or more

I try to "sell" people on the idea of farm meat all the time, but this is a hard sell.

.69 cents/lb vs the $4 lb is well over the 400%. We'll discuss over beer and factory raised wings?
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Re: Fresh whole turkey

by Steve P » Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:06 pm

JustinHammond wrote: We'll discuss over beer and factory raised wings?


ROOTIES factory raised wings :wink:
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Re: Fresh whole turkey

by John Hagan » Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:47 am

Ok got this email today. whole birds 2.59 a pound. Free range Amish birds.


Happy Thanksgiving from Preferred Meats, Inc.


We are now taking orders for our fresh, free-range Amish turkeys. These turkeys are a seasonal item and if you've had them in the past, you know how moist and tender they are.



As in the past, there will be a 3 pound variance on the desired weight. We have these birds 2-3 days after processing.



You can pick up your order as late as Wednesday 12/24/10.



Whole Birds - $2.59 lb.

Bone-In Breast - $3.79 lb.

Boneless Breast - $4.39 lb.



Order early.



Sincerely,



Rodney & Kathy Hager

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Re: Fresh whole turkey

by JustinHammond » Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:59 am

John Hagan wrote:Ok got this email today. whole birds 2.59 a pound. Free range Amish birds.

Happy Thanksgiving from Preferred Meats, Inc.

We are now taking orders for our fresh, free-range Amish turkeys. These turkeys are a seasonal item and if you've had them in the past, you know how moist and tender they are.


Whole Birds - $2.59 lb.

Bone-In Breast - $3.79 lb.

Boneless Breast - $4.39 lb.


Order early.

Sincerely,


Rodney & Kathy Hager

Preferred Meats, Inc.

812.246.5930


Sounds like a winner.
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