Tim Whalen wrote:I meant gastronomically, not geographically, of course. Brooklyn has a large Italian community (ever seen Moonstruck? That bakery where Nicholas Cage worked in the movie was a real place) and the food reflects it, depending on the neighborhood, of course. The mom-and-pop butchers, pizza places, delis and bakeries. Coffee shops roasting their beans. Restaurants with no menus, you walk in and they tell you what they have that day (maybe because they didn't know English well?).
Tim, I knew what you meant, and I really meant no offense by my snarky comment. But let me put it this way: I have lived in Outer Boroughs NYC (Queens, not Brooklyn, but similar concept, Astoria, a neighborhood that was Italian before it was Greek and still has a strong Italian presence). We also got around Cobble Hill in Brooklyn and other Italian neighborhoods because I'm very interested in Italian food and culture.
Separately, I've also been lucky enough to have the opportunity to travel in Italy a lot. Mostly in the Northern parts (from Rome to the North) rather than the southern regions and Sicily where most American immigrants came from.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that I love Italian food from Italy, and I love family-style Italian-immigrant food in the US. But the latter is really rooted in Ellis Island days and has evolved some distance away from Italian cuisine, especially the regions in the north (which "Northern Italian" restaurants in the US generally don't capture either, because they don't pick up the diversity that separates Piemonte from Tuscany, Lombardia, the Veneto, Emilia-Romagna, Friuli-Venezia Giulia and so on. "New York Italian" and "Italian Italian" are both great, but they're so different that saying "Brooklyn is as close as you can get to Italy" kind of made me chuckle.
No offense meant, and I hope none taken. But now I'm more curious than ever to see where Cozza really falls on the Italian food spectrum.