Makers' Mark lounge seeking a certain kind of bartender ...

[Robin Garr]

Makers Mark lounge posted this ad on craigslist...

"Maker's Mark on 4th St. Live is seeking an experienced female bartender. Must be very knowledgeable about liquor and drinks. We are looking for someone that is outgoing, fast paced, energetic, and takes pride in customer service.

Hiring Immediately. Please send ALL of the following to <deleted>........ 1. Current picture 2. Resume with references 3. Facebook link"

Specifying female? Requiring a picture? A Facebook link? Any expert opinions (or even inexpert opinions) out there regarding the legality of all this?

When I saw it on craigslist, I couldn't believe it. Guess I will have to become a hot chick to get a part time job around here.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,517334,00.html

When I saw it on craigslist, I couldn't believe it. Guess I will have to become a hot chick to get a part time job around here.

Isn't being a hot chick a BFOQ for being a bartender?

The facebook link request seems stranger than the photo request. I'd bet they are using it to judge attractiveness, but maybe they just don't want to interview/hire someone with a skull tattooed on their forehead and a spear through their nose.

[Robin Garr]

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The facebook link request seems stranger than the photo request. I'd bet they are using it to judge attractiveness, but maybe they just don't want to interview/hire someone with a skull tattooed on their forehead and a spear through their nose.

Or maybe they want to get a sense of what she reveals about herself in social media? Is she a Teabagger? An Occupier? Argumentative? Heavy drinker who posts about her daily hangovers? These could all be factors in judging a person who's essentially going to be on the front line for the company.

Frankly, I can see a lot of reasons why an employer would like to be a fly on a potential employee's Timeline. It does seem intrusive and a little creepy, but then, people have a choice whether to work for The Corporation; I made mine in 1990.

I have heard of bars and coffee shops in LA asking for a "head shot" or whatever they are called to be included with your resume. I think it is silly/ridiculous but if that is what they want I guess go for it. It's not like I will be running down to 4th street anytime soon..

[Robin Garr]

I have heard of bars and coffee shops in LA asking for a "head shot" or whatever they are called to be included with your resume. I think it is silly/ridiculous but if that is what they want I guess go for it. It's not like I will be running down to 4th street anytime soon..

I don't know if law has changed in recent years, but at one point, EEOC laws forbade the requirement of a photo with an employment app, to prevent it being used as a workaround against rules forbidding employers to inquire about a potential employee's race.

When I saw it on craigslist, I couldn't believe it. Guess I will have to become a hot chick to get a part time job around here.

"Unemployed need not apply"...Much-much more common than you think...

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/job ... 43362.html

I don't know if law has changed in recent years, but at one point, EEOC laws forbade the requirement of a photo with an employment app, to prevent it being used as a workaround against rules forbidding employers to inquire about a potential employee's race.

The race and sex of a person should be pretty clear during the interview process; don't see how a picture on an app would make it much easier to discriminate.

I can make an argument for it in many different ways. Maybe they typically only employ males and need a female to even it out a bit. Maybe they have an equal balance and a female left her job and they want to keep that balance.

Regardless of the reasons I think that everyone qualified for the position should get the opportunity to apply for that position. I am not all that upset that they choose to do this, I never thought of 4th street as more than a strip club that left their clothes on anyway.

I never thought of 4th street as more than a strip club that left their clothes on anyway.

I agree; the beer tub girls show more T&A than most strip clubs.

The race and sex of a person should be pretty clear during the interview process; don't see how a picture on an app would make it much easier to discriminate.

Federal law prohibits discrimination based on: race, color, religion, sex, or national origin, age, disabilities or genetic information. So in addition to race/sex a picture could also identify age (group) and (in some cases) the presence of disabilities or defects.

[Robin Garr]

The race and sex of a person should be pretty clear during the interview process; don't see how a picture on an app would make it much easier to discriminate.

Your argument is with the court, not with me. I assume the thinking was to prevent simple pre-screening by race or gender and at least give applicants a level playing field up to the interview door.

The race and sex of a person should be pretty clear during the interview process; don't see how a picture on an app would make it much easier to discriminate.

Justin, you just earned a spot on my "not ready for prime-time management" list...

Federal law prohibits discrimination based on: race, color, religion, sex, or national origin, age, disabilities or genetic information. So in addition to race/sex a picture could also identify age (group) and (in some cases) the presence of disabilities or defects.

I thought my point was pretty clear, guess not.

I'm just saying that a picture can't identify race, color, religion, sex, or national origin, age, disabilities or genetic information any easier than the first in-person interview. If someone is using discriminatory hiring practices, he is going to do it with or with or without a picture.

Robin,

Hell, the name on the application could often be used to discriminate based on sex and maybe even race/origin, should it be left off the application?

I thought my point was pretty clear, guess not.

I think I understand your point now, I took your first post to mean that aside from sex/race nothing else could be gathered from requiring a picture...which of course is not true.