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London, Paris, Geneva & Chamonix recommendations

by Ed Vermillion » Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:19 pm

Does anyone have any recommendations for any can't miss eating. I've got North Sea for what is rumored to be the best Fish & Chips in London. Have a couple of spots in Paris near the Rue Cler market. Todd Lowe passed on a great looking place in Geneva. Price range for casual or business casual. Do you have any favorites?
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Re: London, Paris, Geneva & Chamonix recommendations

by Phil Gissen » Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:25 pm

I am leaving for Wisconsin in a few hours for the week-end, but I have a ton of suggestions for Paris. When are you leaving Ed?
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Re: London, Paris, Geneva & Chamonix recommendations

by Phil Gissen » Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:39 pm

Some restaurant suggestions in Paris. I will have more for you on Monday night.

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L'Epigramme, which is in the rue de l'Eperon in the 6th arrondissement.
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Jadis
208, rue de la Croix 75015 Paris - Métro: Porte de Versailles or Convention.
01.45.57.73.20
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Parnasse 138
138, boulevard Montparnasse Paris 75014 - Metro Vavin
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Le Gorille Blanc
11 Bis, Rue Chomel Sevres- Babylone Metro station
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Le Jeu de Quilles
45, rue Boulard
75014 Paris
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Le Jardinier
5, rue Richer
75009 Paris
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Au Petit Marguery
9. Boulevard de Port Royal-Metro Goeblins
01 414-416-8774
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La Ferrandaise
: 8 rue de Vaugirard 75006 PARIS 06 Metro Odeon
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Re: London, Paris, Geneva & Chamonix recommendations

by Ed Vermillion » Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:45 pm

Thanks, Phil. Look forward to seeing the others as well.
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Re: London, Paris, Geneva & Chamonix recommendations

by Phil Gissen » Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:48 pm

Ed,
I go for the smaller bistro type places rather then the Michelin star restaurants. These are all family owned and family run and are quintessential Paris. They are not all that expensive either. More will come..............
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Re: London, Paris, Geneva & Chamonix recommendations

by Jesse Hendrix-Inman » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:00 pm

A great one in Geneva is Chez Ma Cousine.

http://www.chezmacousine.ch/index_fr.html

The area that it's in is a great place to explore. There is bar nearby called The Navy Club that is a great relaxed atmophere.
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Re: London, Paris, Geneva & Chamonix recommendations

by Joel H » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:04 pm

My favorite fish & chips place in London is the Rock and Sole Plaice, in Covent Garden. The one time I ate there, Paul Weller was sitting at the table next to us. Can't really get more English than that!

Also, for Indian food, check out Cafe Bengal on Brick Lane. The food is excellent, and there's this huge, ridiculous mural of Princess Diana (as described in the blog post) that's pretty funny, too.
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Re: London, Paris, Geneva & Chamonix recommendations

by GaryF » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:06 pm

The one restaurant I always go back to in Paris is
La Rotisserie d'en Face
2 rue Christine.
I have never had a bad meal there in 12 years.
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Re: London, Paris, Geneva & Chamonix recommendations

by Linda C » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:21 pm

I say, get OUT of Geneva, the old town is nice, but there's so much charm across the lake in the Lavaux region.We took the train (or you can take a steamer) across Lac Leman to the beautiful vineyard covered other side and enkoyed the small caveux and family run restaurants. One truly memorable meal was at Auberge de Rivaz. Try their seafood platter...but be warned...they bring TWO so just get one! Fabulous place. If you have time, spend a day walking or taking the "wine train" between the gorgeous villages.

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Re: London, Paris, Geneva & Chamonix recommendations

by John Greenup » Thu Mar 19, 2009 3:54 pm

I haven't been to Paris in years, so any suggestions are dated at best...
....but as for London:

1. El Pirata, 5-6 Down Street, W1J 7AQ...Spanish cuisine tucked away in the SW corner of Mayfair (near the Hilton)...good tapas menu;

2. Rules Restaurant, 35 Maiden Lane, http://www.rules.co.uk/ , traditional English dining;

3. The Audley, 41 Mount Street; pub grub

4. Rocket, 4 Lancashire Court, W1S 1EY...wood-oven pizzas and a diverse, modern European menu; good for a drink or quick bite...tends to attract a younger crowd

5. Prezzo, 17 Hertford Street, W1J 7RS...casual Italian dining

6. Food Hall at Harrod's .... amazing place...you name it, they probably have it.
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by AmyBK » Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:11 pm

Ed,
The Al Hamra in Shepherd market is a longtime favorite. Great Lebanese food. Also Bibendum, while enormously pricey for dinner, is a great upscale lunch spot. (Trivia time - Bibendum is the name of the Michelin Man and the restaurant is in the Michelin House building). if you go into the theatre district around Leiceister Square there are tons of kebab spots and chinese, thai, etc., all very reasonable.
Bombay Palace on Connaught St. is excellent Indian food. My sinuses were clear for the entire week after dining on their vindaloo.
Take your young man to the London War Museum, across the Thames from the houses of Parliament, and the Churchill Museum and war rooms. He will be in heaven!
Take your bride to Neal's Yard Dairy for the most amazing cheese shop. I believe they have opened a shop in Covent Garden. OMG is it a wonderful place!
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Re: London, Paris, Geneva & Chamonix recommendations

by Deb Hall » Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:29 pm

Ed Vermillion wrote:Does anyone have any recommendations for any can't miss eating. I've got North Sea for what is rumored to be the best Fish & Chips in London. Have a couple of spots in Paris near the Rue Cler market. Todd Lowe passed on a great looking place in Geneva. Price range for casual or business casual. Do you have any favorites?


I recommend you take me with you....(PLEEEEASE)
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Re: London, Paris, Geneva & Chamonix recommendations

by Catherine Davidson » Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:06 pm

I recommend you take me with you....(PLEEEEASE)
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Re: London, Paris, Geneva & Chamonix recommendations

by Phil Gissen » Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:36 am

Here are a crap load of suggestions I found on my computer back in Milwaukee. Check them out and I hope they help:
These are small bistros which generally have a small three to
five-course menu ranging from 25-35€ and a reasonably priced wine
list.
L’Entredgeu
83 Rue Laugier 75017 M: Porte de Champerret (01 40 54 97 24)
My current favorite. The chef has a good pedigree, and is cooking up
a storm for just 28€ for dinner. The cooking here is hearty and
delicious, and with a finesse that separates them from the rest of the
field. The room is cramped but very cheerful and charming. One of
the best price/value rapport in the city.
L’Ourcine
92, rue Broca 75013 Paris (01 47 07 13 65)
A delicious new bistro, overseen by Yves Camdeborde of La Régalade
fame. Very cute little space, run by a very agreeable African lady
who speaks perfect English.
L’Os à Moelle
3, Rue Vasco de Gama 75015 M: Lourmel (01 45 57 27 27)
My parennial favorite. The chef is a Constant protégé. The menu here
is still very refined, with at least 5 courses, each complex in its
simplicity. They are on the higher price end of this group, with the
dinner menu at 38€, but worth every penny.
Le Repaire de Cartouche
8, boulevard des filles du calvaire 75011 M:St Sebastien Froissard (01
47 00 25 86)
Here is another Constant protégé, in a space that looks like it could
be an old hunting lodge. The cooking here is big and bold.
Chez Michel
10, Rue de Belzunce 75010 M: Poissonnière ( 01 44 53 06 20)
Yes, yet another Constant protégé, with roots from Brittany which show
in the menu. When I am here I always order something from that
region, his yummy Kig-ha-farz, a pot au feu of sort, with pork jowls
(the Kig bit) and curious doughy dumplings with sweet raisins (that
would be the Farz bit). A great spot for a meal before/after the
Eurostar.
L’Ardoise
28 rue du Mont Thabor 75001 M: Beaubourg/Les Halles (01 42 96 28 18)
An ever popular spot for Anglo gastro tourists, but has managed to not
let the quality goes down the drain even with the mainly non-local
clientele.
Café Constant
139, rue Saint-Dominique 75007 (01 47 53 73 34)
The first outgrowth in Christian Constant’s plan to take over rue
Dominique. A simple neighbourhood bistro serving simple and good
food. The clientele is a mix between high-rolling Le Figaro readers
to local workmen.
Les Fables de la Fontaine
131 rue Saint-Dominique 75007 (01 44 18 37 55)
The newest of Christian Constant’s places on rue Dominique. This one
focuses on fish and seafood. A lovely spot for a deliciously fishy
lunch.
Mon Vieil Ami
69 Rue St Louis en l'Ile 75004 M:Cité (01 40 46 01 35)
Another favorite. This is a bistro outpost of the fabulous three-star
Le Buerehisel in Strasbourg. The menu is not entirely Alsatian, but
gives a nod to the general direction. Also on the higher price end of
this scale (dinner menu 38€), and in a more refined -and highly
designed- atmosphere than all the others. It is on the charming Ile
St.Louis from where you could take a romantic and enchanting walk
along the Seine to digest the meal.
L’Ami Jean
27, rue Malar 75007 M:Alma Marceau (01 47 05 86 89)
The chef here was once a sous chef at La Régalade while Yves
Camdeborde was still cooking. The menu is very similar to La
Régalade, robust, hearty food. They do very good game (wild meats)
during the season.
À la biche aux bois
45 Ave Ledru-Rollin 75012 M: Gare de Lyon (01 43 43 34 38)
This place is always packed with locals. The tables are so closed
together you’d think you are eating from a communal table –not that
there’s anything wrong with it. The menu is completely void of
pretension, the cooking is perhaps simpler than the others on this
list, but no less tasty, and a great value at only 25€.
L’Avant Gout
26 rue Bobilot 75013 M:Place d'Italie (Auguste Blanqui exit) (01 53 80 24 00)
My friend Mr.Naughton is in love with the incredible 12.50€ lunch menu
here. You get an entree, plat, a glass of wine, and coffee, all
included for the price, the bargain of Paris in my opinion.
La Table de Lucullus
129 rue Legendre 75017 M: La Fourche (01 40 25 02 68)
Clotilde introduced me to this place, a favorite of hers. I've only
had foie gras and chocolate here (such a hard life I lead), but they
were so lovely as to warrant a mention in this list. The affable
young chef Nicolas Vagnon is reportedly a wiz at fish and seafood.
His specialty dessert, chocolate saucer with ginger ice cream is a
delectable treat.
Ethnic Eats
Le Bambou
70, rue Baudricourt 75013, 01 45 70 91 75 Metro: Place d'Italie
This is my favorite Vietnamese place in Paris. I go there for a giant
bowl of Pho, served properly with saw-tooth herbs on the side to be
torn and thrown in the already fragrant soup. The best cure for
food/booze/smoke-induced hangover that I know. Another favorite is a
steamed crèpe with minced pork (Bun Cuon).
Les 4 Frères
Metro Menilmontant
For cheap and delicious couscous, order a salade méchui (or whatever
other salade on the menu du jour) and a couscous maison (with a meat
of your choice) and you should be all set. I have no address for this
one, sorry, but it's super easy to find. Take metro to Menilmontant,
get up to the street, look ahead and to the right, just a few doors
down, next to a North African supermarket is Les 4 Frères.
L’étoile Kabyle
93 Ave. de Paris, Chatillon M:Chatillon
This is a very good Algerian restaurant, recommended to me by an
Algerian cab driver in Paris. It’s a bit of a trek, all the way out
the Chatillon, but worth the trip I promise you. The food is
inexpensive and the portion enormous, bring lots of dining companions.
Portable Eating
Le Grand Epicerie
on Rue de Sèvres at Blvd. Raspail (1st floor of the Bon Marché department store)
Another perfect way to eat inexpensively and well in Paris is to buy
ready-made items from food shops and eat them al fresco somewhere fun.
And for this I cannot think of a better place than le Grande
Epicerie, the Mother-of-All épicerie, carrying everything from the
fabulous black pig Ibérico ham to jelly beans. You will be dazzled by
the plethora of choices, cheese, sausages, hams, patés, breads, and
even desserts. But don’t let anything faze you, take your time, walk
around, check out everything before you decide.
Here you could buy a baguette, some cheese, a bit of ham or sausages
and even a bottle of wine and have a lovely picnic out in the nearby
park with your sweetheart, all for less than 20€. I don’t usually buy
desserts there though, I prefer to walk a few blocks over to rue
Bonaparte for fabulous desserts from Pierre Hermé –they are not
inexpensive, by any means, but entirely worth the price, and I would
rather have one sublime macaron than a giant bag of cookies any day.
L’As du Falaffel
34 rue des Rosiers 75004 (01 48 87 63 60)
You can sit down or take a famous falafel to eat while strolling the
Jewish quarter on rue de Rosier. The best fast food in the entire
city, in my opinion. I once had a falafel as appetizer on the way to
a lunch at Les Ambassadeurs. Yes, I am crazy, I know, but why do you
sound surprise? ;-)
Drinkable fun
La Cave de l’Os à Moelle
across the street from L’Os à Moelle
A wine bar extension of my darling L’Os à Moelle. There is no menu
here, you pay 20€ and eat whatever on offer that day, buffet style.
You could also pick up a bottle of wine from the bar to drink with
your dinner, for the same price as a take-away bottle. The food is
simple but delicious, the wine list inspired and full of wines from
small artisanal makers, and the atmosphere friendly and fun. I love
it.
Juveniles
47 rue de Richelieu Paris, 75001 (01 42 97 46 49)
Another fun place for a few tapas items and a spot of drink, run by a
funny Scotsman. The food -mostly tapas-ish items like duval sausages
and great cheeses (with surprising English ones from Neals yard)- is
good, and the wine even better. The bar man speaks perfect English,
in case this is important to you.
Le Verre Volé
67 rue de Lancry 75010. M: Gare de l'est. (01 48 03 17 34)
A tiny little place focusing on wines produced with natural methods,
biodynamic, sulphur-free, etc. The list here is incredible if you are
interested in those wines from small artisanal producers. The menu is
small but always has interesting items to try, and you are actually
required to eat something with your drinks here. Just my kind of wine
bar.
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MORE RESTAURANTS IN PARIS:

Epigramme – 6th

Le Maison du Jardin – 6th

Table of Eugene – 18th

Le Grand Pan – 14th

Passage Gormet

Afaria – 14th

L’Agassin

Bistro 121 – 15th

Ober-Sale

Chez Naolo

Les Termes de

Muss Bar

Grannie

Au Gout Dujon

Periere

Le Cloche

La Bigarrade

Café Moderne

Le Timbre

Christophe

Auguste

Le Beurre Noisette – 15th

La Stella – 16th

Le Relais du Parc – 16th

Cameleon – 6th

Wadja – 6th

Domaine de Lintillac – 7th

Les Ormes – 7th

A L’Abordage – 8th

Dominique Bouchet – 8th

Citrois Etoile – 8th

Carte Blanche – 9th

Le Pre Cadet – 9th

Velly – 9th

Chez Michael – 10th

Aux Zingots – 10th

L’Ourcine – 13th

De Bouche a Oreille – 14th

L’Opportun – 14th

Vacroux – 14th

Le Hide

Le Docs de la Baleine

Aux Sources

153 Grenelle

Itineraries

Le Baratin

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9, rue de l'Eperon
75006 Paris
01 44 41 00 09
Closed Sun. dinner, Mon.


At this restaurant, you'll enjoy a young chef who worked at Bardet,
Bocuse, and Jean-Francois Piege, a well-thought out setting between
dry stones and nicely set tables, a bourgeosie cuisine renewed daily
(Du Barry cream, breaded pig's feet, hare à la royale...), and nice
prices (menu-carte at €22 and €28) in the Latin Quarter. You'd be
wrong to deprive yourself of this experience.
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Maison du Jardin (La)
27, rue de Vaugirard Paris, France 75006
Phone:
01 45 48 22 31
Fax:
01 45 48 22 31
Cuisine:
French (Bistro), French (New)
Neighborhood:
06th arrondissement
Hours:
• Mon: 12:30PM - 10:00PM
• Tues: 12:30PM - 10:00PM
• Wed: 12:30PM - 10:00PM
• Thurs: 12:30PM - 10:00PM
• Fri: 12:30PM - 10:00PM
• Sat: 7:30PM - 10:00PM
ZAGATRatings & Review
Food Decor Service Cost
24 19 23 €43
This “true gem” “near the Luxembourg Gardens” is a “favorite little”
bistro for “remarkable” New French food served by “dedicated”,
“personable” people in a “cozy” dining room; the fact that it offers
“excellent value for money” also makes it “one to recommend”, even if
many beg to “keep it secret.”
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Le Grand Pan
20, rue Rosenwald Map
75015 Paris
+33 (0)1 42 50 02 50
Métro: Plaisance/Convention
Rating (Key)
14/20

Price
€€€€€
In memory of Georges Brassens, the popular and poetic French singer,
chef Christian Etchebest has opened Le Grand Pan.

Closed Sat. lunch, Sun.


In memory of Georges Brassens, the popular and poetic French singer,
chef Christian Etchebest, who also operates Le Troquet in Paris, has
opened Le Grand Pan. In this simply arranged bistro, lunch starts with
two large, unadorned appetizers: the creamy lima bean soup with
balsamic vinegar, toast and chorizo; or with young vegetables,
soft-boiled egg and “ventrêche.” Following are the saddle of lamb,
with sautéed golden potatoes and juice of chorizo, or the pork cheek,
braised with red wine. For dinner, after a house soup, you can choose
among a large array of meats that represent many of France’s
agricultural regions. In addition to the courses offered on the set
menu for two at €40, other main dishes include a superb pork chop
(from the Ibaïona artisans of the Basque country), a juicy beef rib
(from Blonde d’Aquitaine), a veal chop (from Mauléon), and a lobster
(from Brittany---about 1.5 pounds for €40); all are served with home
fries or salad. Some wines from the Southwest of France (Cahors,
Madiran) are offered at moderate prices. Warm service. Lunch:
appetizer €8, main course €13, dessert €7. For dinner, count on
spending around €30 per person (not including the lobster).
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Afaria
15, rue Desnouettes Map
75015 Paris
01 48 56 15 36
Métro: Convention
Rating (Key)
13/20
Price
€€€€€
Slightly away from the Convention métro station, Julien Duboué renews
the Southwest bistro cuisine with mastery.

Closed Sun., Mon. lunch


Slightly away from the Convention métro station, Julien Duboué renews
the Southwest bistro cuisine with mastery. In his redone rustic
establishment, this former chef of Carré des Feuillants and of Drouant
regales Parisians come from the four corners of the Capital with
well-rooted and inspired dishes. His dishes attest to this; try the
blood sausage infused with apple and served in mustard, his
sweetbreads stew with boletus mushrooms and carrots accompanying
parmesan vermicelli, and apple tourtière. Those will the smallest
appetites will be easily pleased with one of the 14 tapas and a glass
of Txakoli. Menu around €40.
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LE GAVROCHE
GORDON RAMSEY AT CLARIDGES
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HUSH – steamroller@hush.com.uk
ORRERY
LA PORTE DES INDES – pilondon@aol.com
PETRUS
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HAKKASAN – mail@hakkasan.com
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I also have a book about bistros in Paris I would like to share with you. Is there some place I can drop it off for you?

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Re: London, Paris, Geneva & Chamonix recommendations

by Leann C » Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:12 pm

London:
On a really nice day, we always enjoyed heading over to Hammersmith to The Old Ship Pub/Restaurant. They have great outdoor dining, drinking, lounging space right on the river. It's very casual.
http://www.oldshipw6.com/
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