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by carla griffin » Sat Mar 31, 2007 10:10 am

That's why it reminds me of EPCOT. All looks...not much heart and soul.
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by robert szappanos » Sat Mar 31, 2007 10:45 am

And how do you know that for sure..... :D
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by carla griffin » Sat Mar 31, 2007 10:53 am

Robert! Because I am all knowing and can see into the hearts and minds of any community development! It's a gift OK? Besides...didn't I say "not being judgmental" in my first post? Doesn't that mean I can say anything I want without being called out? :wink:
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by robert szappanos » Sat Mar 31, 2007 11:05 am

:D WWWWWWWEEEEEELLLLLL :lol:
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by carla griffin » Sat Mar 31, 2007 11:13 am

OK, as long as you're OK with that. I'm not not here to provoke, only irritate.
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by Doogy R » Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:50 pm

carla griffin wrote:I too hope NC works; there's obviously a great deal of time, money and planning put into it and it's quite pretty. I also like the way the architects have strayed away from the usual multiple, shallow gabled, faux creek-rock facades that have been so popular here for far too long. I was just wondering if the human, social element can be reproduced.

I don't know how much the NC condos cost but when I looked the houses started at around 3 hundred G's. At that price it will eliminate many families and singles from being able to live there. (No argument that this is true for many subdivisions or developments that are out there.) So where will the labour force come from to work at the jobs in the stores within NC? In other words, how many of Karems dishwashers, food servers and bartenders can afford to live in NC? It seems when your residents don't actually contribute to the growth and health of your area that you lose that 'community' feel. You can argue that the NC residents contribute to its own growth and health by financially supporting the shops and stores found within but in my opinion it doesn't register the same sort of 'ownership' that working, worshipping or schooling your children in your community does.

Again let me stress I'm not saying this is right or wrong or the way everyone should live; this is merely an outside observation that it takes a great deal more than a bunch of people who want to live in an old Louisville style home in the suburbs to recreate what a true community is.
(Apologises for the numerous run-on sentances.)


Carla, I totally agree with what you're saying here. One thing to note is that Louisville/America is a lot different than it was when our older (100-200 years) neighborhoods developed. What we may be seeing is the next phase of neighborhood evolution after the mass exodus from urban core that started after WWII. Remember the great expanses of 1 story ranch homes all over suburban Jefferson County? Another thing to note is that a lot of cities are seeing a rebirth of people moving back to the urban core, with Louisville being a great example.

I'm all for development, as long as it is well thought out and is not development just for the sake of development. I truly believe Norton Commons is a good example of this. Of all the places I'd love to live in the Ville, it would be either downtown (really downtown, not just on the periphery) or NC.
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by carla griffin » Sun Apr 01, 2007 9:52 am

That's precisely what I'm talking about. More of a socio evolution. And I agree about people moving back into the city areas. Less emphasis on big lawns and an increase in condo/loft sales. Perhaps lawns are just too time consuming for todays lifestyles? Gas is so costly that living in a central area that requires less driving is more attractive. I sincerely hope NC works; I think it may be the next new homing rave. I just wonder if there are enough people ready for it.
Now if we can just get public transit between Crestwood and Mike Lennings I'd be happy! :D :D
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location?

by C. Devlin » Fri May 04, 2007 11:59 am

Where is Nortons Commons? If I want to get there from 65 South out of southern Indiana, how do I get there?
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by Jay M. » Fri May 04, 2007 12:20 pm

C. Devlin wrote:Where is Nortons Commons? If I want to get there from 65 South out of southern Indiana, how do I get there?


http://www.nortoncommons.com/locationmap.asp

I 65 south, exit to I-71 north toward Cincinnati, exit at the Snyder Freeway (I-265) south, then take first exit (Highway 22 - Brownsboro Road), take a left at end of ramp onto Hwy 22, go to Highway 1694 and make a left to NC. See map at link.
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by Robin Garr » Fri May 04, 2007 12:23 pm

Jay M. wrote:I 65 south, exit to I-71 north toward Cincinnati, exit at the Snyder Freeway (I-265) south, then take first exit (Highway 22 - Brownsboro Road), take a left at end of ramp onto Hwy 22, go to Highway 1694 and make a left to NC. See map at link.


Adding only slightly to Jay's comprehensive response, when you get off the Snyder onto KY 22, you'll go under the expressway overpass and then pass the big Costco and hospital development, Brownsboro Crossing, on the left (also look for Red Robin hamburgers). The left turn - actually more like a fork - toward Norton Commons is fairly soon after that.
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by C. Devlin » Fri May 04, 2007 1:55 pm

Thanks so much to you both. That was exactly what I needed.
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We live in Norton Commons....

by Jerry Zegart » Wed May 09, 2007 2:15 am

First to those who expressed: "That's why it reminds me of EPCOT. All looks...not much heart and soul." You are soooooo wrong. We have something that is very special to Norton Commons- A strong sense of Community! I've NEVER lived anywhere where people care so much about each other. I know and care about my neighbors throughout our Community.

I posted the following elsewhere on this site in regards to the Norton Commons opening of Gelato Gilberto... I invite anyone who wants to learn more to stop by, walk the streets, drive down the alleys, and even check out our community garden. We spend many a weekday sunset and quiet weekends with our friends and neighbors in our community garden. In fact email me and I'll take you for a personal tour.

As I noted below we are from broad diverse backgrounds of all ages and socio-economic backgrounds, but as I said there is one thing we all have in common- The sense of Community that is Norton Commons! It is amazing how we have come together as a community!

Imagine this- All you see now is a shell of what will be over the next 10 to 15 years.

Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 11:49 pm Post subject: We are excited to live in Norton Commons and be a part of it!

You asked me "What is your relationship to Karems and Gelato Gilberto." Purely a patron. We live in Norton Commons and it is exciting to see the growth in our business district. We live about a block from the business area so it is very close to home.

Some try to compare Norton Commons to the Highlands or other old Louisville areas. They obviously have not driven into the area, although at 1st glance it may not be obvious.

On the commercial side- Saratoga is open in our live works area now and features many beautiful home accessories and very special hand made jewelry. Goldberg and Simpson will move and open their new law offices shortly in their beautiful 30,000 square foot building. That will be followed by an old time fire station and then the 100,000 square foot Klienert and Kutz medical specialist Building. Rumor has it that we may be getting a new Catholic School and Church too!

On the food side- I've already mentioned Gelato Gilberto and Karem's Pub and Grill. An Asian Restaurant will open in the months ahead too, all of which are in our live works district where the owners can and do in many cases live above their business. Rumor has it that an Italian Restaurant is in the works too! So on the commercial side there is a lot going on now and many more announcements to come over the years ahead.

But it is the residents that make the community. There are homes and condos at every price point and apartments too. The community comes from very broad diverse backgrounds of all ages. There is a real sense of community not found anywhere else in Louisville... and it is for that reason that I am very excited to update this space as Norton Commons continues to develop over the next 10 to 15 years.

Spend "Sunset Thursday" at Karems and drive around and check out the area. Keep in mind that we are less than 4 percent complete and I think you will quickly understand my excitement!
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by Robin Garr » Wed May 09, 2007 7:35 am

jzegart wrote:First to those who expressed: "That's why it reminds me of EPCOT. All looks...not much heart and soul." You are soooooo wrong. We have something that is very special to Norton Commons- A strong sense of Community!


I admire your spirit for your community, and I'm sure what you say about the feeling is true. And I agree that there's a lot to like about NC that absolutely distinguishes it from most "tract mansion" developments.

That being said, I still personally would rather see that kind of urban spirit going into the continued rejuvenation of the "real" city rather than a modern model that emulates a traditional neighborhood on freshly developed outlying farmland. If nothing else, with gasoline at $3 a gallon and rising, suburban sprawl is looking like a worse and worse idea.

Do you have any data on racial, cultural and socio-economic diversity in Norton Commons?
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by Ron Johnson » Wed May 09, 2007 10:15 am

I have no doubt that the people who bought homes and live in Norton Commons enjoy it very much. To each his own.
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by Eliza W » Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:41 pm

From my perspective at least, I don't really understand why people think Norton Commons looks good. I think it's hideous. A bunch of ugly fake retro houses plunked down in a flat field. But to each his own, and if people like this stuff, it's great that they're getting what they want.

At least they have got great gelato, and that makes up for a lot.
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