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by robert szappanos » Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:15 pm

:D Thanks Dave :D
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by Ron Johnson » Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:48 am

Roger A. Baylor wrote:
Bedford Crenshaw wrote:
Whatever it takes to keep the USA safe, is what we should do.


That's scarier than anything a terrorist might do, because it is open ended.

Do we nuke first?

Do we commit the same crimes as the "enemy" because we're right and they're wrong?

Where does it end, Bedford?


Fascism.
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by Robin Garr » Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:53 am

Ron Johnson wrote:Fascism.


And we're getting dangerously close.

Fourteen more months!
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by David Clancy » Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:01 pm

Robin Garr wrote:
Ron Johnson wrote:Fascism.


And we're getting dangerously close.

Fourteen more months!
We are already there...the Jack Boots are just cleverly disguised as Penny Loafers!
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by Ron Johnson » Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:21 pm

"Trust us, we know what is best for you . . ."

"Dissent is not patriotic"

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Still wondering..

by carla griffin » Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:55 am

Up front let me go ahead and say I have never been in the military (although I have family that have for many years on one side and family members that served time in prison for NOT serving - ministers - on the other).
Having said that..
For me the question remains not IF we torture or don't but rather WHY would we torture? My understanding from Mr McCain - and I would think he would know - is that torture is ineffective as an information gathering technique. People will tell you anything you want to hear to make the torture go away. Torture only serves certain purposes. One is to inflict pain on an enemy and establish control, and the other is to exact revenge. Neither seem to be a reflection of Christian attitude that this political regime claims to hold so dear. Neither purpose extracts accurate, dependable information necessary for any war effort. If that's the case why do it? I think it harkens back to those original two purposes I mentioned earlier.
As an American citizen, I want my country to reflect a nation of courage, honor and dignity. want to be able to point to the USA as the standard for what's right, what's good and what people can do when reason and sensibility is in control and not greed or imperialism. We used to be that but now it seems we're just another nation doing whatever it takes to shove ourselves and our beliefs on others because we claim God is on our side. We sound like every other nation ruled by zealotry.
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There is one thing more exasperating than a wife who can cook and won't, and that's a wife who can't cook and will. ~Robert Frost
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