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Perceptions of Louisville

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by Paula B » Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:19 pm

Just had to throw in my 2 cents that David Novak does an enormous amount of good deeds that aren't publicized in the cj--both as a ceo of one of the largest (maybe it is the largest) companies in our fair city, and on his own. Even if you aren't a fan of YUM, they bring a huge tax base to Louisville, and helps many, many people.

That being said, the cj is a total rag.
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by MichelleJ » Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:12 pm

Thanks for mentioning Consuming Louisville Steve.

Yes, I am unabashedly in love with Louisville and all the things happening here. There are are some things that I'd like to see changed or improved but this place is home to me. My partner and I actually had the option to pick almost anywhere in the US to move to this past summer and we chose to come back to Louisville. There was no place else we'd rather live. I didn't grow up here but lived here during college and after. I spent the last four years in Indianapolis and that time only confirmed to me just how great Louisville is and how much I love it.

So it's that passion for this place that compels me to run Consuming Louisville. I know there are people that think "there's nothing to do" or "there's nothing <b>cool</b> to do" or "I've tried all the places there are to try in this town" "or this place sucks." Consuming Louisville tries to, gently, change those opinions by talking about all the great things that exist and are happening here.
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by Ron Johnson » Sun Dec 02, 2007 8:20 am

Living in Cincinnati quickly made me realize how great of a city Louisville is.
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by Aaron M. Renn » Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:12 am

Michael Sell wrote: I would say by 2010 in Louisville...1/3 of the population would just as easily be happy living in Jeffersonville or wherever in the midwest,


This quote is emblematic of the #1 thing that is wrong with Louisville, namely is horrible regional relations. It is certainly telling when someone says Jeffersonville, a town that shares a border with the city of Louisville, might as well be "wherever in the midwest".
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by Aaron M. Renn » Sun Dec 02, 2007 1:32 pm

Regarding Chicago: As with any big city, if you don't take advantage of the things you can only get there, then you are overpaying, both in money and inconvenience. If you are just going to live a suburban lifestyle, Chicago is probably not the best place. You have to value things like luxury shopping, the opera, urban living (i.e., no car), etc. Or work in an industry like hardcore financial services (such as commodities trader) that requires you to be in such a locale. Or have strong roots/family there. Otherwise, get out.

Regarding Cincinnati. I'm surprised Ron Johnson didn't like it. I'll admit to having less exposure there. The geography and architecture are the among the best for a city of its size I've seen in the US. It has a formidable collection of assests, such as the Cincinnati Symphony and its strong Fortune 500 corporate base. It has retained a lot of local culture, such as Cincinnati-style chili. Clearly, there must be something seriously wrong with Cincinnati as it is one of the all time great decline stories in the US. From Porkopolis to just another midwestern burg. With the collection of assets it has, Cincinnati should be one of America's elite cities. I just don't understand it, but the arch-conservatism and inward focus may be part of it. I'd be interested in understand any impressions.

Regarding Indianapolis. Whatever one may think of this city, people are voting with their feet. It has the highest population growth rate of any million-plus metro in the Midwest and is actually outpacing the national average. Twenty-five years ago Louisville and Indy were probably close to the same size. While they are probably still in the same size class, Indy is now marked larger and the divergence increases by the day.

It is worth paying attention to Indy and Cincinnati, because I believe they hold a cautionary tale for the future of Louisville. Both central cities/counties are suffereing under the onslaught of collar county booms, which are attracting not just residents, but corporate headquarters and the like. When Jefferson County is full, and there are millions of square feet of office space in Oldham County, Louisville will have a challenge on its hand. I estimate this situation starst to hit in 10-15 years.

As someone who has lived in Louisville and elsewhere, what I really find compelling about the city is the strong neighborhoods with lots of character, as well as the focus on quality over quantity. I've always been of two minds about the idea that Louisville needed to shoot for the typical American vision of "world class city" as typified by downtown convention centers and 4th Street Live. Rather, I think of Louisville more like a Geneva than a New York City. Louisville is actually bigger than Geneva, incidentially. Focus on being a middle-sized, high quality place that marches to its own drum-beat, not a mindless imitator of elsewhere. In that regard, slow population growth is not a bad thing. I think this is something that appeals to a lot of the "underground" artists and such who have called people home. The average joe has no idea who Will Oldham or Janet Bean are, never listened to bands like Rodan or Slint, but people like that are worth any number of touring Broadway shows.

Quality, locally owned restaurants. Strong artists who follow their own path. Visionaries with a passion for world class architecture. Blocking and tackling like the old city parks, and now the City of Parks. Wrap it up in what is basically Southern cultural sensibility and lack of pretension. And of course for me the rolling hills of Southern Indiana. This is what makes Louisville great.
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by Ron Johnson » Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:19 pm

Aaron M. Renn wrote:Regarding Cincinnati. I'm surprised Ron Johnson didn't like it. I'll admit to having less exposure there. The geography and architecture are the among the best for a city of its size I've seen in the US. It has a formidable collection of assests, such as the Cincinnati Symphony and its strong Fortune 500 corporate base. It has retained a lot of local culture, such as Cincinnati-style chili. Clearly, there must be something seriously wrong with Cincinnati as it is one of the all time great decline stories in the US. From Porkopolis to just another midwestern burg. With the collection of assets it has, Cincinnati should be one of America's elite cities. I just don't understand it, but the arch-conservatism and inward focus may be part of it. I'd be interested in understand any impressions.


Louisville blows the doors off Cincinnati.
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by Aaron M. Renn » Mon Dec 03, 2007 12:12 am

Ron, I'm curious to know what you don't like about Cincinnati. Or is it simply a matter of not measuring up to Louisville. I have never lived there and don't know a lot about what it is really like, only that it is superficially impressive to the visitor.
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by carla griffin » Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:32 am

I was in Cincinnati for business with some regularity for a couple of years and two things really stood out to me...

The first was the hugh amount of 1800's buildings in Cincinnati with fantastic architecture that's just sitting there rotting. There seems to be no revitalization program going on. What a missed opportunity on the local government's part.

The second was the very obvious class/race distinctions within the city. There seemed to be no middle America there. Only the elite and those that serve them. And that seemed to be divided along racial lines.

What a shame.
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by Michelle R. » Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:34 am

I just dislike Cincinnatti because it's so damn hard to navigate through.
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Re: Perceptions of Louisville

by Dan Thomas » Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:55 am

I had to revisit this thread now that "American Idol" is coming here...

I guess we've made it now!!!!

Whoopee!!!...Lets find the redneck stereotype and put them on the tube for the masses!!!!

Through careful editing; I'm "sure" that they will find a lot to make our town proud of...

And this is a Big News Story!!!! In most local media outlets...
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