Serve-Yourself Beer Taps

Has this been mentioned as of late?

http://www.asylum.com/2010/03/10/table-top-beer-tap-serve-yourself-bull-and-bear-bar-chicago/

I'm not sure, but it may be illegal here. The issue is serving yourself. One important role of servers/bartenders is to not over-serve patrons. It looks like a lawsuit waiting to happen.

(I know technically the server can keep an eye on the patrons, but that is very different than actually serving product. You can't be watching all the time).

Otherwise, fun concept.

NOW I remember reading about this somewhere a long time back...

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/23783068/

Every table with a built-in tap (there are five inside the bar) also has a screen that tracks how many ounces you have left," he says. "Each person is allotted 24 ounces of beer (roughly two pints) to start, and your waitress swipes a card at the beginning that activates the system so you can start self-serving."

Once your 24 ounces is up, the system pauses so the waitress can come over and make sure you're not overly inebriated. At that point, she can swipe a card so you can add more pours to the system.

24 ounces is not a lot of beer. 20 oz pints are pretty standard procedure, so it is not much more than one beer before the server has to check on you.

24 ounces is not a lot of beer. 20 oz pints are pretty standard procedure, so it is not much more than one beer before the server has to check on you.

I wish 20 ozs were standard. Heck, I just want pint glasses to hold 16 ounces.

24 ounces is not a lot of beer. 20 oz pints are pretty standard procedure, so it is not much more than one beer before the server has to check on you.

I wish 20 ozs were standard. Heck, I just want pint glasses to hold 16 ounces.

Am I not getting 20 oz pours?

I just went to check a glass they serve Guinness and it serves 20 oz. Perhaps it all depends on the glass their using at the time; I remember a discussion on here while back on the discrepancy of a "pint". However, from what I understand, 1 pint = 16 fluid ounces.

24 ounces is not a lot of beer. 20 oz pints are pretty standard procedure, so it is not much more than one beer before the server has to check on you.

I wish 20 ozs were standard. Heck, I just want pint glasses to hold 16 ounces.

Am I not getting 20 oz pours?

Depends where you are. Generally the places serving imperial pint glasses are probably giving you an imperial pint, which is 20 imperial ounces, which is not quite 20 US ounces, but no biggie.

If you are being served in a shaker "pint" glass, you are lucky to be getting 14 ounces.

I just went to check a glass they serve Guinness and it serves 20 oz. Perhaps it all depends on the glass their using at the time; I remember a discussion on here while back on the discrepancy of a "pint". However, from what I understand, 1 pint = 16 fluid ounces.

A US pint is 16 US ounces.
An imperial pint is 20 imperial ounces, which is over 19 US ounces.

That isnt the problem. The problem is the glass that is commonly called a pint glass, doesnt hold a pint by any measure.

Now I understand. Stoopid math.

I guess I need to start asking if I'm getting 16 oz or 20 oz pints. I always thought all the good beer joints served 20 oz pints.

Okay, just did some experimentation with glassware I have at home. It looks like breweries play it generally right with stuff they slap their labels on.

My nonics (the ones that bubble out) hold either exactly 20 US ounces or just a bit more, which should allow for an imperial pint pour with some head.

However, my shaker glasses generally hold exactly 16 ounces to the tip top. Which means your getting cheated if their is any head, but with a good pour, there should be some head. And, these are thin bottomed shakers. I have seen plenty of restaurants with the thick bottomed cheater pints. Anyway, I like the european style graduated glassware with the line at 1 pint or .5L or whatever, fill liquid up to line, have space above line for head.

I guess I need to start asking if I'm getting 16 oz or 20 oz pints. I always thought all the good beer joints served 20 oz pints.

I think the good places do it right. Which is what makes them good. My NABC nonic was pushing 21 ounces at tip top.

In our beer class in Feb., Roger told quite the story about English parliament and pints of beer. Apparently there is quite the debate over whether the head is included or exclude in the pint measurement. Thus on many Imperial pint glasses, there is a stamp/line to mark the pint measurement. Barkeeps can take the head to that line if they believe the pint includes the head or take the beer to the line and still have room for the head.

See Roger, I did learn something

-Pete

Bravo. Learning is good.