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Re: be sure you get the beer pour you pay for...

by Andrew Mellman » Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:27 pm

I am not trying to doubt him, and he did not state the restaurant name (so one cannot check him), but I do know Libby's sells 22.5, 23, and 24 oz beer glasses, and if they do likely others do also. If it's a major chain with dozens or hundreds of outlets, it's not unheard of for them to have made a "deal" with Guiness at special pricing/promotion and/or with Libby to get glasses etched.

Most decent restaurants (chain or local) are much more likely to have the right glasses than to make that much of an error. And, with some of the shapes out there, I doubt many could tell a 20 oz from a 23 oz (slight shape differences can result in major differences in quantity!).

He may very well be correct, but there's just not enuf info to tell.
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Re: be sure you get the beer pour you pay for...

by Andrew Mellman » Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:37 pm

BTW, I know of no LAW on truth in advertising . . . it's mainly self-regulating by the ANA (association of national advertisers) and other bodies. . . violators can be hit by a complaint, and the ANA can demand that an ad be pulled if not truthful . . . if someone is damaged by believing a claim, they can file suit under normal tort law.

If there truly were truth in advvertising laws, we would not have 90% of the political ads currently in view.
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Re: be sure you get the beer pour you pay for...

by Andrew Mellman » Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:44 am

Don't want to beat this to death; not relevant, and not the purpose of the forum.

If you read down the page you cited, about a third of the way down is a section on what to do if you run into what you think is a deceptive ad. The FTC lists several steps to take, the LAST of which is to contact them! While technically they have the right to stop advertising (under US Code, using rules of executive branch agencies, NOT under any specific law called "truth in advertising"), as it usually takes them months or even years to accomplish it they recommend going to the National Advertising Division of the Better Business Bureau (which self-regulates all national advertisers, along with the ANA). In fact, if you look up cases in which the FTC has become involved, you will find that the majority (maybe 99%?) the losing company announces that - as it's ads have already run their course and been pulled - they will not appeal the decision!

"Truth in menu" laws are such a mixed bag that comment is not meaningful. Many states (e.g.: California) don't have any, and in some states consumer protection statutes are so strict that they would be superfluous (also California!). In general, though, while action against such labeling can bring in state or local governmental or quasi-governmental bodies, the statutes really provide platforms for private individuals to sue in tort.

In other words, you should watch out for yourself, and do NOT rely on various governments to protect you, whether ordering from a restaurant menu or seeing a commercial on TV.
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Re: be sure you get the beer pour you pay for...

by Kyle L » Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:07 pm

In other words, you should watch out for yourself, and do NOT rely on various governments to protect you, whether ordering from a restaurant menu or seeing a commercial on TV.


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by JustinHammond » Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:14 pm

I guess I'm not going to be a ripped up bodybuilder and "grow" 3 inches in a week. Those liars!
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Re: be sure you get the beer pour you pay for...

by Kyle L » Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:16 pm

Results vary,eh.
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Re: be sure you get the beer pour you pay for...

by Rob Coffey » Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:52 pm

One thing that is wrong in the article. An imperial pint is 20 inperial ounces, which is only 19.2 US ounces.

However, most places list those glasses as imperial pints, so that isnt a problem.

Of course, many "pint" glasses only hold about 14 ounces of beer, so there are plenty of problems with pours.

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