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Re: Will you drink beer in a box?

by Matthew D » Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:01 pm

Nimbus Couzin wrote:
Paul Mick wrote:I would not drink it with a mouse, I would not drink it in a house. I do not like it James Dlugosch, I do not like Coors-in-Box. (nly, unlike Dr. Seuss' protagonist, I've actually tried the stuff. (sans-box)

Personally, I'm not opposed to the idea of beer in a box though. Provided they can keep the beer from going flat, and the materials are recyclable. It could actually save energy. However, my subsequent argument would have to be that growlers (glass 1/2 gallon bottles filled with beer from your local brew-pubs) are even more energy efficient and much greener, because they are 100% reusable and cut out the carbon footprint from shipping.

JustinHammond wrote:"Despite what the microbrewers will tell you, all beer is pretty much the same. Consumers who pay a premium do so more for the experience than the taste."

My tastebuds and the microbrewers have been lying to me for years. Those bastards.


Hah, you're exactly right Justin. It makes me feel good that the comments on that blog in regards to the part about all beer being "pretty much the same" have been unilaterally scathing. I would throw in my two cents, but there are already more pages of comments than I care to read so I think the issue has been thoroughly addressed. :wink:


Justin quoted an amazing statement that needs to be refuted! " all beer is pretty much the same."

All beer is pretty much the same? What in the world do you know about beer? Apparently nothing!
Bzzzzt...Wrong ...go to jail, don't collect $200....

That statement is like saying all food is basically the same. But in reality some is excellent and awesome and some really sucks. No difference with beer. You can have bland adjunct filled lagers like bud light, or you can have tasty hand-crafted wonders like Stone IPA, or one of our local brews from New Albanian, or BBC, or cumberland or Brownings. The statement is like saying "all bread is basically the same."

Well, I dare you to eat a piece of wonder bread, and then try a piece of good whole grain bread from a German bakery )or Blue Dog locally. No comparison . Almost like apples and oranges...


rrrrrrrrr...


The person making the "all beers are the same argument" is someone who has bought into the "selling of the middle" marketing approach in America. Simply, it is easier to market objects as being different (when they are the same) then it is to actually market products that are actually different. Really, what's the difference between Miller Light and Bud Light? Instead of embracing difference settled through competition (the hallmark of free market capitalism), we've allowed ourselves to be seduced by 1) the perception of difference among that which is the same (Bud Light and Miller Light) and 2) the "othering" of that which is really different. The most clever way to do this, then, is to other the outsider (the microbrew) by saying "no really, it's just like ours." In other words, instead of highlighting its difference as unique (or even bad), you eliminate its difference by saying "it's the same." As creatures of habit, we like "same." Once you make that argument, the next argument is simple - the financial bottom line argument. "Why pay 8 bucks for a six of that, when you can get 24 of ours for 8.99."

Maybe this is a rant. Maybe I needed to get it off my chest.
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Re: Will you drink beer in a box?

by Richard S. » Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:04 pm

In an effort to tighten up the budget in the week before payday, I bought a six pack of Miller Genuine Draft last weekend instead of my usual Guiness Extra Stout. It's been years since I've tasted MGD and I wasn't expecting much, but I was surprised at the complete lack of flavor. Next time I'll just do without.
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Re: Will you drink beer in a box?

by Rob Coffey » Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:14 pm

Paul Mick wrote:
Nimbus Couzin wrote:Justin quoted an amazing statement that needs to be refuted! " all beer is pretty much the same."

All beer is pretty much the same? What in the world do you know about beer? Apparently nothing!
Bzzzzt...Wrong ...go to jail, don't collect $200....


He has nearly 550 comments on that story already, and more coming in by the minute. It is also his most poorly rated story on the site. I think this guy is going to learn his lesson! :D


Make outrageous statements and your hit count goes thru the roof? Lesson learned!!!

Umm...hmmm...not good.
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Re: Will you drink beer in a box?

by Charles W. » Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:16 pm

Matthew D wrote:The person making the "all beers are the same argument" is someone who has bought into the "selling of the middle" marketing approach in America. Simply, it is easier to market objects as being different (when they are the same) then it is to actually market products that are actually different. Really, what's the difference between Miller Light and Bud Light?


You can see Matthew's complete lack of sophisticated beer knowledge by his reference to Miller Light, when all of us in the know realize it is Miller Lite. :shock:
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Re: Will you drink beer in a box?

by Matthew D » Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:15 pm

Charles W. wrote:
Matthew D wrote:The person making the "all beers are the same argument" is someone who has bought into the "selling of the middle" marketing approach in America. Simply, it is easier to market objects as being different (when they are the same) then it is to actually market products that are actually different. Really, what's the difference between Miller Light and Bud Light?


You can see Matthew's complete lack of sophisticated beer knowledge by his reference to Miller Light, when all of us in the know realize it is Miller Lite. :shock:


Dammit, I have been caught! I have been found to be outside of middle America! I don't know the discourse to talk about domestic swill, so I've been found to be a phony!

Good catch Charles. I got a good laugh from your post. Granted, I'm surprised someone (Bud, Miller) hasn't switched the spelling to "light" and told us it was "different." Guess they are too busy redesigning the bottles for the umptenth time.

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Re: Will you drink beer in a box?

by Jessie H » Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:21 pm

silly ode to beer (from a box or otherwise)

i will drink it from a box, i will drink it in my socks.
i will drink it in my PJs, i will drink it dancing with DJs.
i will drink it in a bar, i will not drink it in a car.
i will drink it from a can, i will drink it with my man.
i will drink it at the lake, i will drink it while i bake.
if you pour it in a shoe, i will drink it anywho.
if it's cold or no so much, i will drink it anysuch.
chi mangia bene, viva bene.

amen.
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Re: Will you drink beer in a box?

by Robin Garr » Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:50 pm

Bravo! Bravo! <throwing bo-kays at the arteeste>

Jessie H wrote:silly ode to beer (from a box or otherwise)

i will drink it from a box, i will drink it in my socks.
i will drink it in my PJs, i will drink it dancing with DJs.
i will drink it in a bar, i will not drink it in a car.
i will drink it from a can, i will drink it with my man.
i will drink it at the lake, i will drink it while i bake.
if you pour it in a shoe, i will drink it anywho.
if it's cold or no so much, i will drink it anysuch.
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Re: Will you drink beer in a box?

by Steve P » Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:53 pm

Jessie H wrote:silly ode to beer (from a box or otherwise)

i will drink it from a box, i will drink it in my socks.
i will drink it in my PJs, i will drink it dancing with DJs.
i will drink it in a bar, i will not drink it in a car.
i will drink it from a can, i will drink it with my man.
i will drink it at the lake, i will drink it while i bake.
if you pour it in a shoe, i will drink it anywho.
if it's cold or no so much, i will drink it anysuch.


Now THAT was funny. Encore, encore.
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Re: Will you drink beer in a box?

by Jessie H » Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:02 pm

:oops:
chi mangia bene, viva bene.

amen.
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Re: Will you drink beer in a box?

by Roger A. Baylor » Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:34 pm

Adam C wrote:I would drink beer out of a shoe if it was cold enough.


And you wouldn't taste a thing, including the lovely hint of sweat socks.
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Re: Will you drink beer in a box?

by Roger A. Baylor » Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:39 pm

In truth, some clueless dude writing something about "money central" has as much business making pronouncements about beer quality as I do suggesting where to put your money.

Like the "beer summit" today, it's a non-issue, and indicative of slow news days. I'm over it.

Of course, he'll never be allowed to set foot in any establishment I own ...
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Re: Will you drink beer in a box?

by David R. Pierce » Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:05 pm

While we are on the subject of swill; when Miller triple hops their beer do they use three hops or do they cut one into three pieces? Just curious.
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Re: Will you drink beer in a box?

by Alan H » Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:23 pm

Rob Coffey wrote:
Beer in a can - fine.
Beer in a bottle - fine.

Im pouring all 3 in a glass first though.

And it wont be Coors.


What about pressure ?

How would a product like Coors or Bud Lt taste like coming out of a box without any CO2,aren't they carbonated beers after all ?

I assume this has been figured out :? , maybe put a cork in it when you are done ?
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Re: Will you drink beer in a box?

by Tom Holstein » Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:28 pm

Roger A. Baylor wrote: has as much business making pronouncements about beer quality as I do suggesting where to put your money.


Ouch... :shock:

Ooopss......wrong thread. :oops:
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Re: Will you drink beer in a box?

by Nimbus Couzin » Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:49 pm

Roger A. Baylor wrote:In truth, some clueless dude writing something about "money central" has as much business making pronouncements about beer quality as I do suggesting where to put your money.

Like the "beer summit" today, it's a non-issue, and indicative of slow news days. I'm over it.

Of course, he'll never be allowed to set foot in any establishment I own ...


I bet you'd let him in Roger. You're too good of a host. It'd be an educational moment, sort of like Obama with the prof and the cop tonight, talking over some beers.....(microbrews hopefully)....

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