Kim H wrote:I'm not familiar with this organization/movement. Is there a website(s) where I can learn more? It sounds like undue hardship and expense on the small farmers, but I don't have enough information to get involved in a protest at this point. On the surface, it sounds like too much government intervention.
Matthew D
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Mark R. wrote:By reading the description of the program I'm not so sure it's such a bad idea except for maybe issuing the new premises numbers which appear to be redundant. With all of the various epidemics that have occurred in will occur in the future may prove positive means of animal identification is needed. This actually appears to be a relatively simple system considering it was developed by the gov't.
Heck even our cats have RFID chips inserted in them. It's inexpensive and provide a positive means of identification. I'm sure the reporting will be done online or via a telephone call so it shouldn't really be much of a hassle or time consuming.
Maybe I'm wrong but people need to realize that agriculture like everything else needs to develop new technologies to ensure consumer safety and to maintain their confidence in the agricultural system. The world is changing and agriculture needs to get out of the 20th century.
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Mark R. wrote:By reading the description of the program I'm not so sure it's such a bad idea except for maybe issuing the new premises numbers which appear to be redundant. With all of the various epidemics that have occurred in will occur in the future may prove positive means of animal identification is needed. This actually appears to be a relatively simple system considering it was developed by the gov't.
Heck even our cats have RFID chips inserted in them. It's inexpensive and provide a positive means of identification. I'm sure the reporting will be done online or via a telephone call so it shouldn't really be much of a hassle or time consuming.
Maybe I'm wrong but people need to realize that agriculture like everything else needs to develop new technologies to ensure consumer safety and to maintain their confidence in the agricultural system. The world is changing and agriculture needs to get out of the 20th century.
Matthew D wrote:The "world is changing" argument doesn't fly. How exactly is the world changing? How do these initiatives respond to these changes? And, finally, are these changes the best way to deal with whatever issues we are facing [if we are actually facing issues]? I don't know on what grounds these changes are being offered, but those are the questions I would be asking to interrogate the useful of the changes.
I need to do my HW on this issue before I take a stand, but I'm not going to buy the "the world is changing" argument.That argument, it would seem, could be used to defend any decision, program, or initiative.
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Leah s wrote:So how much paperwork and how much $ for the fees? I did read on noNAIS.org but didn't find that info.
John Hagan
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Robin Garr wrote:
Get Involved to Learn More: We will be hosting a poster/banner making party this Tuesday at the Phoenix Hill Farmers Market in Louisville. (3:00pm 829 East Market Street) Come on out to learn more about the rally and help us get prepared!
Matthew D
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Mark R. wrote:Matthew D wrote:The "world is changing" argument doesn't fly. How exactly is the world changing? How do these initiatives respond to these changes? And, finally, are these changes the best way to deal with whatever issues we are facing [if we are actually facing issues]? I don't know on what grounds these changes are being offered, but those are the questions I would be asking to interrogate the useful of the changes.
I need to do my HW on this issue before I take a stand, but I'm not going to buy the "the world is changing" argument.That argument, it would seem, could be used to defend any decision, program, or initiative.
How has the world changed? Let's see. We used to very seldom see a foreign product nor ship one made in America overseas. Today that is commonplace. Did we used to worry about the content of foreign foods? No, but after the issues last year everyone is highly concerned about it. Did we used to have contamination issues from produce we buy at our local grocery store? No, but how many incidents have we had in the last several years? Did cattle used to be fed and slaughtered at large feedlots? No, but now that is commonplace and the norm. I can certainly go on and on with this list but I'm sure you get my point.
I'm sure there are farms where the cattle grow up from being calves to being slaughtered without ever leaving but are we still sure about every thing they are fed or every medicine they receive? Probably not in most cases. Wouldn't you feel safer if there was a way cattle could be rapidly traced if an issue arose? I certainly would.
As I said there may be valid reasons to oppose this legislation but on the surface it sounds like a very reasonable program and one that can help insure the the foods we eat are safe. Something I'm sure everybody can support.
John Hagan wrote:Robin, to bad you posted this on Wednesday a day after.....Oh well, better late than never.
John Hagan
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Robin Garr wrote:John Hagan wrote:Robin, to bad you posted this on Wednesday a day after.....Oh well, better late than never.
D'oh!Not my fault, though. I got it in the mail and posted it immediately.
Matthew D
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