Brad W wrote:I think most people think of "domestics" as being Bud/Miller/Coors/PBR/Old MIl, etc.
Even though Goose Island is a string-puppet of AB, I would put it in a category named "American Craft" or "craft brewed"which includes most micro's small and large and regional breweries, implying that it is something more than plain, yellow fizz like the domestic category. Don't get me wrong...the domestics have their place in our society but lumping in IPA's, wheat beers with Budweiser is a disservice to lots of creative individuals.
Just my 2 cents....which buys nothing these days.
Rob Coffey wrote: domestic - indigenous to or produced or made within one's own country; not foreign; native
Thats my point, not that craft and BMC should be grouped together. Change the word domestic to "American Macro Beer"* or something. It also bothers me when places list american beers under "imports".
* Technically, only Bud is american now. Miller and Coors are foreign beers now.
Now now If you want to get technical AB is A publicly traded company And it's largest investor is an english company whose net profit each year is the equivalent of the gross profit of AB's entire sales in the state of Texas. So what do you truly consider American, I feel the lines have truly been blured . I do agree with your line of thought though.Rob Coffey wrote:Brad W wrote:I think most people think of "domestics" as being Bud/Miller/Coors/PBR/Old MIl, etc.
Even though Goose Island is a string-puppet of AB, I would put it in a category named "American Craft" or "craft brewed"which includes most micro's small and large and regional breweries, implying that it is something more than plain, yellow fizz like the domestic category. Don't get me wrong...the domestics have their place in our society but lumping in IPA's, wheat beers with Budweiser is a disservice to lots of creative individuals.
Just my 2 cents....which buys nothing these days.
domestic - indigenous to or produced or made within one's own country; not foreign; native
Thats my point, not that craft and BMC should be grouped together. Change the word domestic to "American Macro Beer"* or something. It also bothers me when places list american beers under "imports".
* Technically, only Bud is american now. Miller and Coors are foreign beers now.
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Roger A. Baylor wrote:Rob Coffey wrote: domestic - indigenous to or produced or made within one's own country; not foreign; native
Thats my point, not that craft and BMC should be grouped together. Change the word domestic to "American Macro Beer"* or something. It also bothers me when places list american beers under "imports".
* Technically, only Bud is american now. Miller and Coors are foreign beers now.
LOL: If I had a dime for every time a server has included Blue Moon as an import, I'd have enough money to live in Europe.
Rob Coffey wrote:
My favorite is when places have "$2 domestic draft happy hour" and then charge you $5 for a Two Hearted.
As far as Blue Moon goes, now that its made by Molson/Coors, I guess calling it an import (even though it is still made in the US) is okay. Sort of like calling a car made in Georgetown an import.
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Customer: You'll never make it...
Rob Coffey wrote:David R. Pierce wrote:
Customer: You'll never make it...
Heh.
How do you put up with the regular "Give me whatever tastes the most like Bud Light." Or do
you just serve them ice water?
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Hi Brad! To clarify (from my original post), I put "the usual suspects" under domestic (I.E. Bud/Coors/MGD/etc. etc.) to differentiate between how important those beers "should" (not) be, versus those craft/micro/interesting beers that are currently on the market, and they are the ones that we seek out to make the world safe for democracy........I put AB/Coors/Miller Et.al in the same tent as Walmart/Gannett/ etc. and any tentacles or "sell out's" are alway's suspect in my mind.......JMHOBrad W wrote:Using the term "domestic" is more of an industry term that has been thrown around for the last couple of decades more than one consumers usually go by so it's true, it's not a technically correct situation. One of those things that just is and hardly gets questioned but I guess really needs to be.
Probably time for a campaign to straighten it out on Menus. Kind of like, "why is Brut champagne drier than Extra-dry"...seems wrong...or if Congress actually did something worthwhile...they'd be called Progress(George Carlin).
I probably need to adjust my vocabulary...I use this currently: domestic, cheap domestic, import(for imported swill), imported craft(for quality products), American craft, Micro(for the smaller guys), and brewpub.
AB is considering a deal from INBEV as I type this, so it could also fall by the wayside and be considered a true foriegn-owned brewery before too long.
Molson/Coors/SAB/Miller and now INBEV/AB...seems like it keeps changing once a year. A few years from now...who knows...
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