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Legend Crab closes, Chinese buffet planned

by Rich S » Mon Apr 17, 2023 2:27 pm

Legend Crab Seafood House, in the old Buckhead location at Gardiner Lane Shopping Center, closed recently after less than two years in business. I believe it’s the seventh Cajun seafood restaurant to shut down locally in the past couple of years. There are now only four left: Pier 17 (Hurstbourne Parkway and Dixie Highway) and Storming Crab (Outer Loop and Clarksville).

Legend Crab will be replaced by King Buffet. The sign says “Chinese Seafood Hibachi Sushi,” but I can’t find any more information about the place. Supposedly it’s opening soon.
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Re: Legend Crab closes, Chinese buffet planned

by Tony G » Mon Apr 17, 2023 7:14 pm

Although I have not been in the place the location on Dixie always seems to have lots of cars in the parking lot when I drive by. Might have to give it a try. Might be wrong but I think it’s boil in a bag seafood??
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Re: Legend Crab closes, Chinese buffet planned

by Robin Garr » Tue Apr 18, 2023 3:26 pm

Tony, the rush of crab boil places, almost all Asian-owned, seems to have crashed here and elsewhere. I think the pandemic, a snow crab species crash, and maybe an iffy business model probably all came together to make it a short-lived phenomenon.

Here's a good story with a little background on the phenom when it was still going strong;

By Erica Marcus
erica.marcus@newsday.com @Erica_Marcus
December 5, 2019 10:51 AM

When Ben’s Crab opened in Oceanside in 2017, it was the only restaurant on Long Island serving what it called “Louisiana Cajun Style Seafood.” Now boiled feasts of spicy crawfish, crab legs, lobster tails and / or shrimp are popping up like mushrooms after a rainstorm. From Cajun Claws in Patchogue to Cajun Crab Shack in Floral Park, more than a dozen “Cajun seafood” eateries have opened in the last year or are planning to do so soon.

“The dining scene is changing,” said Cecilia Burgos, a marketing executive at Hook & Reel, which operates one franchise in Hicksville and more than 15 nationwide. “This style of restaurant appeals to millennials, and also to Latino and African American diners.” The chain has more than 50 new locations in the works, including in Valley Stream, Westbury and Bay Shore. Hook & Reel’s corporate headquarters is in Flushing, Queens and, Burgos said, almost all of the franchises are Chinese-owned — as are most of the Cajun seafood restaurants in the Metropolitan area. (One notable exception: Ben's Crab, whose owner, Nico Salindho, emigrated from Indonesia.)

Menus vary, but the main event is a collection of crustaceans and mollusks, plus potatoes and corn on the cob, tossed in a huge, clear plastic bag with your choice of seasonings. The bag is tied up and boiled and then brought, steaming, to your table. Equipped with plastic gloves, lobster crackers and picks, you dig right into the open bag to manhandle your quarry.

Most restaurants offer a build-your-own bag option, with per-pound prices $13 to $19 for crawfish, shrimp, mussels and clams, around $25 for snow crab legs, $30 for lobster and topping out at around $40 for king crab legs. Or there may be set combos of two or more species. The sauce lineup usually includes garlic butter, Old Bay, lemon pepper and Cajun; the spice level is also up to the diner.

Salindho, who opened a second Ben’s Crab in Uniondale in October, said that when his first restaurant opened, customers balked at the format. “‘Why don’t you peel the shrimp?’' they asked. ‘Why are you making us do all the work?” But over the last two years, the complaints have abated. “Now that it’s so popular, people have changed their minds.”

Cajun seafood restaurants tend to be good deals (you’d be hard-pressed to spend more than $40 a head), but in their desire to keep prices down, quality can fall short of the highest bar. Frozen shrimp, snow crab and king crab legs are a given (virtually all such seafood served in the U.S. is) but I ran into some frozen Dungeness crabs and, oddly for Long Island, even a few frozen clams. Crawfish and blue crab, seasonal items, also may not be freshly caught.

Outside of the bag, other menu items may look toward Louisiana — grilled oysters at Voodoo Crab and Cajun Claws, po-boy sandwiches at Hook & Reel — or further afield to Maryland (crab cakes), New England (chowder, lobster rolls) and Japan (pork gyoza, edamame). Long Island seafood stalwarts fried calamari and coconut shrimp are almost always available. You might even run into a Kobe sliders (Cajun Claws), paella (Cajun Crab Shack) or a grilled tomahawk rib-eye (Voodoo Crab).

If you’re thinking, “that actually doesn’t seem very Cajun,” you’re right. The menus at these places are borne of an unlikely confluence of culinary styles.

The story starts in New Orleans, as you might expect, but the protagonists are Vietnamese. Louisiana was one of the locations where refugees settled after the fall of Saigon in 1975 and up through the 1980s. Joe Bui, who owns the Vietnamese restaurants Rolling Spring Roll in Farmingdale and Syosset, explained that “the Vietnamese experimented with the traditional Louisiana crawfish boil, adding their own flavors. I had a cousin who would boil crawfish with condensed orange juice and Vietnamese herbs.”

The style spread to Houston, whose sizable Vietnamese population grew after Hurricane Katrina displaced (again) many the Vietnamese from New Orleans. By the early 2000s, Viet-Cajun seafood restaurants were “a thing” in Greater Houston, and also in California, which has the largest Vietnamese population in the country. Boiling Crab, a chain with 20 locations (most of them in California) debuted in Orange County in 2004.

The next chapter of our story begins in China, and requires rewinding to the 1980s. Crawfish had been introduced to China a few decades earlier, but now it really started to take off in restaurants. According to a 2018 article in the South China Morning Post, production tripled from 2007 to 2016, leaving the Chinese the consumers of more than 90% of the world's crawfish.

“Crawfish spread like wildfire in China,” said Danny Wu, a Taiwanese-American who owns Thom Thom steak and sushi restaurant in Wantagh. “And, like other Chinese trends — like hot pot — crawfish spread to Flushing and, now, to Long Island.”

As it happens, Chinese-American restaurateurs here were ready to take the ball and run with it. Tom Lau, who was a partner in the short-lived Cajun seafood restaurant Mighty Catch that opened and closed within a few months in Oceanside (now the site of LI's second Cajun Bucket) noted that Cajun seafood was “the next big thing. First there was Chinese buffet,” he said, “then a lot of people opened Japanese restaurants, then Asian fusion. Now it’s Cajun seafood.”
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Re: Legend Crab closes, Chinese buffet planned

by Andrew Mellman » Tue Apr 18, 2023 4:07 pm

Rich S wrote:There are now only four left: Pier 17 (Hurstbourne Parkway and Dixie Highway) and Storming Crab (Outer Loop and Clarksville).


Playing genealogist, I would call Pier 17 a distant cousin, and Joe's Crab Shack the grandfather!
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Re: Legend Crab closes, Chinese buffet planned

by Richard S. » Thu Apr 20, 2023 10:53 pm

Tried Pier 17 and Million Crab, but never went back to either. Having the big greasy bag sitting on the table while you ate was a turnoff. The gumbo at Pier 17 included carrots, which my Louisiana-born wife thought was horrific,
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Re: Legend Crab closes, Chinese buffet planned

by Robin Garr » Fri Apr 21, 2023 8:49 am

Richard S. wrote:The gumbo at Pier 17 included carrots ...

:shock: :shock: :shock: :twisted:
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Re: Legend Crab closes, Chinese buffet planned

by Carla G » Fri Apr 21, 2023 3:51 pm

What was the name of that steamed seafood place in St, Matthews, sat in the back parking lot of what was then Bacons? (Westport Rd. ran between it and the railroad tracks.) 20+ years ago.
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Re: Legend Crab closes, Chinese buffet planned

by Ed Vermillion » Fri Apr 21, 2023 6:03 pm

Carla G wrote:What was the name of that steamed seafood place in St, Matthews, sat in the back parking lot of what was then Bacons? (Westport Rd. ran between it and the railroad tracks.) 20+ years ago.


Carolina Shrimp Company, Carla.
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Re: Legend Crab closes, Chinese buffet planned

by joe.muller » Fri Apr 21, 2023 9:00 pm

They also had a damned good fried fish sandwich. I remember spending many of my work lunches there in my younger years.
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Re: Legend Crab closes, Chinese buffet planned

by Carla G » Sat Apr 22, 2023 9:11 am

Ed Vermillion wrote:
Carla G wrote:What was the name of that steamed seafood place in St, Matthews, sat in the back parking lot of what was then Bacons? (Westport Rd. ran between it and the railroad tracks.) 20+ years ago.


Carolina Shrimp Company, Carla.


That's it! Thanks Ed!
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