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Marsha’s Industry Standard: To Serve or Not to Serve

by Robin Garr » Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:56 am

To Serve or Not to Serve
By Marsha Lynch

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I know a lot of bartenders and servers. None of them go to work hoping to be able to deny service to a guest. And yet it happens frequently. It's never good, and it's never fun, but some occasional situations call for it.

In Kentucky, regulations called dram shop laws assign potential liability to servers who provide alcohol to a customer “when a reasonable person under the same or similar circumstances would know that they are already intoxicated. ”So if you over serve some numbskull who then gets in the car and injures or kills themself or others, the sale or service of alcohol can be considered a factor in the accident.

But it's a tough call. How much alcohol is one drink over the line?Where else and how much has the patron had to drink before he entered your establishment?Are they surreptitiously hitting a flask in between the glasses of wine they're ordering?Are they otherwise intoxicated by drugs?Have they neglected to take medicine prescribed for another condition that may be exacerbated by alcohol?You don't know, can't know, won't know until their behavior gives them away.

Let's say you've served a few rounds to a patron who carries the drinks back to a table, so you haven't noticed how drunk one of his friends is until she suddenly falls off her high top bar stool. Embarrassed, she approaches the bar to get a refill. This is the moment of truth. You could just go ahead and serve her – surely her friends won't let her drive, right?But even if she doesn't drive, she might stumble into the street when leaving and get hit by a car. She might destroy the ladies' room by getting indiscriminately sick in there. She might pass out in there, requiring staff to force the lock or break down the door to get her out.

So you decline to serve her. Sometimes this causes a scene;nobody likes to be told they're too drunk to buy another drink. Especially drunk people. No bartender does this lightly. You're likely to get stiffed for drinks and almost certain to get stiffed on the tip. Chances are good that the party will then shuffle along to another bar or restaurant and play the same game. But it's the right thing to do, morally and legally. Some bartenders even call – and pay for – a ride-share service to pick up the patron and take them home. This may seem like a happy ending, but remember, the server is still suffering the loss of pay and now they're out an Uber fee, too.

Then there's the one you refuse to serve simply due to a reputation for drinking and dashing. One man in our community is so infamous for drinking/dining and dashing that when he goes out several times a week, restaurant workers pile on social media. A line of posts follows him from one establishment to another as he's either denied service immediately upon entry, or asked to leave when the debit card he pretends to use for payment comes up short.

I have seen so many photos of this man, I'm sure I'd recognize him on the street. Security camera photos. Mug shots. Snapshots from servers' phones. He's been arrested many times for this behavior, too – yet he always manages to get bailed out and goes right back to the same scheme. Sometimes he brings along a girlfriend and her kids as camouflage.

You might think that establishments should be able to take this hit once in awhile, and many do. But some bars and restaurants hold their employees responsible for dine- or drink-and-dashers. A server, making $2. 13 an hour before tips, might be asked to pay the tab when a table leaves without settling up. So if they walk out a $35 bill, that might eat up a big portion of her pay for the day. It is not legal for the establishment to require the server pay the bill, but some places do it anyway.

Keep an eye out for your friends when you're out drinking together. Most people would much rather have a friend tell them “oh hell no, Blanche – you're getting a coffee this round!” than have the bartender, likely a stranger, cut her off.

So give an extra big tip to your bartender or server this week. Almost all of them have experienced these situations at one time or another, so slip them a little hazard pay. If you do, they'll remember you next time!

Marsha Lynch has worked at many Louisville independent restaurants including Limestone, Jack Fry’s, Jarfi’s, L&N Wine Bar and Bistro, Café Lou Lou, Marketplace @ Theater Square, Fontleroy’s and Harvest.

Read it on LouisvilleHotBytes:
http://www.louisvillehotbytes.com/serve-not-serve

and in LEO Weekly:
https://www.leoweekly.com/category/food-drink/
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Re: Marsha’s Industry Standard: To Serve or Not to Serve

by Ron Johnson » Thu Feb 27, 2020 11:13 am

Here is the statute.

Any other law to the contrary notwithstanding, no person holding a permit under
KRS 243.030, 243.040, 243.050, nor any agent, servant, or employee of the person,
who sells or serves intoxicating beverages to a person over the age for the lawful
purchase thereof, shall be liable to that person or to any other person or to the estate,
successors, or survivors of either for any injury suffered off the premises including
but not limited to wrongful death and property damage, because of the intoxication
of the person to whom the intoxicating beverages were sold or served, unless a
reasonable person under the same or similar circumstances should know that the
person served is already intoxicated at the time of serving
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Re: Marsha’s Industry Standard: To Serve or Not to Serve

by JustinHammond » Thu Feb 27, 2020 12:19 pm

We were at Brendon's Friday night and watched them refuse to serve someone. The person then stumbled across the street into the Seelbach and was in handcuffs 5 minutes later. The police held him for about 15 minutes, then put him in an Uber.
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Re: Marsha’s Industry Standard: To Serve or Not to Serve

by BevP » Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:03 pm

Ron Johnson wrote:Here is the statute.

Any other law to the contrary notwithstanding, no person holding a permit under
KRS 243.030, 243.040, 243.050, nor any agent, servant, or employee of the person,
who sells or serves intoxicating beverages to a person over the age for the lawful
purchase thereof, shall be liable to that person or to any other person or to the estate,
successors, or survivors of either for any injury suffered off the premises including
but not limited to wrongful death and property damage, because of the intoxication
of the person to whom the intoxicating beverages were sold or served, unless a
reasonable person under the same or similar circumstances should know that the
person served is already intoxicated at the time of serving
.



The underlined part is significant to me personally because in December 2014 my 44 year old nephew was an alcoholic went out on his own to a bar on Dixie that he went to quite often but this night as I said he was alone , no driver. He drank way too much stopped at a taco bell on the was home called my sister , who he lived with never made it home got it a skirmish with a guy in the line at taco bell chased him down Dixie ended up in a single car wreck that killed him instantly. I am so thankful he didn't hurt anybody else. We have all hurt enough with the loss of our loved one but I can't say I blame the bar because I have seen him drink so much and I could talk to him like he was stone cold sober...so who is to know unless they use a breathalyzer.
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Re: Marsha’s Industry Standard: To Serve or Not to Serve

by Robin Garr » Sun Mar 01, 2020 10:01 pm

That's so sad, Bev. :( Thanks for sharing, and condolences.

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