I'm from Detroit and for the first 31 years of my life, (moved in 2011), I can't recall one time ever hearing anyone refer to a pizza in this style as "Detroit".
RonnieD
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Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:09 pm
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bob.durbin wrote: Now, if you want to talk about food Detroit is known for,'s look at the coney dog. All beef, natural cased, steam cooked frankfurter served on a steamed bun with a smooth chili sauce made from beef heart, topped with onion, and plain yellow mustard. Unlike with this janky pizza, this is a Detroit food icon and the story behind it's creation, and the family issues since, is well known and documented.
RonnieD wrote:I'll have one of those Detroit dogs, please.
Mark R. wrote:bob.durbin wrote: Now, if you want to talk about food Detroit is known for,'s look at the coney dog. All beef, natural cased, steam cooked frankfurter served on a steamed bun with a smooth chili sauce made from beef heart, topped with onion, and plain yellow mustard. Unlike with this janky pizza, this is a Detroit food icon and the story behind it's creation, and the family issues since, is well known and documented.
I find it ironic that the one food that Detroit truly declares its own have the name of another well-known spot far from Detroit (Coney) in its name! They sound great but my that Detroit promote a hot dog with the name of another place in its name?
bob.durbin wrote:...when the Greek and Macedonian immigrants that would later come to Detroit and develop the coney island, which is also the name of the type of diner the dogs are served in, came through New York ...
RonnieD
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Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:09 pm
The rolling acres of Henry County
bob.durbin wrote:Now that's the type of diner we need here in Louisville. Not some knock off, overpriced, 12 page menu place that thinks they're being creative and hip by putting mac n cheese on a burger.
Robin Garr wrote:bob.durbin wrote:...when the Greek and Macedonian immigrants that would later come to Detroit and develop the coney island, which is also the name of the type of diner the dogs are served in, came through New York ...
Okay, now, this is fascinating: Cincinnati has an almost identical story, complete with the Greek and Macedonian (also Bulgarian) immigrants who came as post-WWII refugees. They also sold coneys, but in Cincy's case there was actually a local amusement park called ... Coney Island!
The Greeks also rebranded their spaghetti with meat sauce as "chili," and Cincinnati chili was born.
It doesn't really surprise me that similar immigrant communities might have reached both Detroit and Cincy with similar culinary entrepreneurial objectives, but it's to Detroit's good fortune that cinnoman-scented "chili" didn't stick.
Meanwhile, I'm starting to suspect that Loui Loui may be the source of the "square parts pans" legend, although I do have to say that the method they use gives their crust an addictive buttery-crispy character that I've found in no other pizza, so there's that.
bob.durbin wrote:Robin Garr wrote:but it's to Detroit's good fortune that cinnoman-scented "chili" didn't stick.
Yeah when I first moved here I went to skyline and, not knowing about Cincinnati chili, got what I thought were coneys and chili fries. Boy was I surprised, and slightly disgusted.
Steve Eslinger wrote:Wow, lot's of Cincy chili hate percolating here. I love the stuff and I have a mean recipe for it. It helps if you don't consider it 'chili' I guess. Sort of like how a White Castle slider shouldn't really be thought of as a hamburger. Hmmm, now that I think about it...White Castle is based in Cincy. I'm sensing a pattern.
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