Construction in front of Indian Springs

Can you all let me know what they are building there? At one point I heard an Aldi but someone told me that got changed. Thanks!

[Robin Garr]

I'm not sure where exactly, Jenny ... are you talking about near PetSmart, opposite Springhurst on the south side of Westport Road at the Snyder? Or off the main road? I'll be out in that general direction tomorrow morning and might be able to swing by and look!

I heard Aldi's and they had to do a massive amount of site prep there

I live in Indian Springs and we have fought this development for 2+ years. It's going to be an Aldi where you see the land being leveled. On the other side, will be a hotel and fast food restaurant. Also, they sold the golf course to the community association....it's a mess. They're going to try and run the golf course for one year, with our yearly dues going up by almost DOUBLE. If the course fails, it will be turned into "green space."

..Also, they sold the course to the community association....it's a mess. They're going to try and run the golf course for one year, with our yearly dues going up by almost DOUBLE. If the course fails, it will be turned into "green space."

I had heard that it the cost was just $1, is that true? If it is I'm not sure why your dues have to go up so much. If you can easily change and didn't have to go into any debt to buy I would think it should at least be self-supporting if you don't have to worry about debt retirement. It actually seems like it should be more expensive to the community to keep it maintained as green space considering then there would be no income from it.

I'm sure if the golf course goes completely under the course goes completely under it will significantly lower the property values. The entire thing certain sounds like a mess for all the homeowners. I'm not sure how it was allowed to happen. Hopefully you guys will end up coming out the deal all right. I suppose there's no possibility to sell that area for additional homes if the course fails because of green space requirements?

Sorry to go off topic with this but I like to hear the actual information from somebody involved not just secondhand.

If the golf course does go under, I hope they can maintain it as a preserve area.
Also, knew about the Aldi but didn't know about the restaurant.
We live out this way but hardly venture to Springhurst except for growler refills:-)
Thanks for the update.

Mark, the $1.00 thing is true as the course was handed over (debt-free) to the I.S. Association.

I'm also not sure how it all went down. The original homeowner agreements clearly stated there would never be commercial development on the golf course property. We fought and fought and were assessed extra dues in the year to help pay for attorney fees. It was all for nothing and in fact, the hotel and restaurant were added on much later. (The first tee will be moved way up, to make room for the development)

I (think) they said there was no way to fit more homes in, so hopefully that won't happen! It's a great location for us and we love our neighbors. But, we feel helpless.

Why in the world did I keep thinking it was a nursing home going there? I think I'm getting it confused with the construction going on at the corner of Westport/Lagrange Rd. I love Aldi's and in a way I'm glad it's in an area where I don't have to drive 10 miles to get to one. This one is down the road from my work and I pass by it going to and from it. However, I feel for the homeowners. Indian Springs is a nice area and of all things, an Aldi's. Wonder if that will decrease their home values. I've always thought of Aldi's being in the lower middle class areas which Indian Springs is not. Just kind of an odd place to stick one at.

Amy,

I agree to a point, but savvy wealthier folk shop at Aldi as much as us poor folks do. I'm not sure why anyone would oppose the opening of a smartly developed grocery store, beyond just the commercial development of the land in general.

I've always thought of Aldi's being in the lower middle class areas which Indian Springs is not.

Given the current pace there won't -BE- an upper middle class and likely not even a middle-middle class in another 10 years, maybe Aldi is just getting a jump on things.

Along the same lines, we're getting another Wawl-Mawrt Sooper Store out here in the hinterlands...To be located on the 393-Bahhh-pais (that's "Billy-speak" for Bypass) near beautiful downtown Crestwood. Wonder how many local businesses THIS one will take out....Hmmmm, Crestwood Grocery Outlet, Crestwood True Value Hardware, etc, etc, etc.

Amy,

I agree to a point, but savvy wealthier folk shop at Aldi as much as us poor folks do. I'm not sure why anyone would oppose the opening of a smartly developed grocery store, beyond just the commercial development of the land in general.

We opposed it mainly because of the increase in traffic, destruction of natural course setting and it broke the original agreement for no commercial development. The god-awful, gridlocked traffic on Westport will only get worse and people use our neighborhood as a cut through. We had to have speed bumps installed to slow non-residents down. (100% of tickets issues are for non-residents)

[Robin Garr]

it broke the original agreement for no commercial development.

That kind of thing makes me crazy. No consequences? Was there any regulatory pushback? Any question of litigation? People rely on those agreements to make major life decisions and take on mortgages that last for a generation. I don't see how developers can simply crumple and toss the original agreements like Kleenex.

It sort of reminds me of some of America's 19th century treaties with the Indians. "As long as the rivers run," yeah right ...

We just received notice that the clubhouse will be closing in 2-weeks. They actually had a nice, little restaurant with a lot of scratch-made soups and dishes. The big fireplace and high ceilings make it a great place for meetings and get togethers.

Our homeowner association dues were always $200/year. This year it was increased to $500 and we got a note that if the golf course stays open, it will increase to $1500 year! So, it looks like the "green space" option is getting more attractive. Apparently, it's been done with success in other places and our committee is investigating. The whole thing is SO frustrating.

[Robin Garr]

Our homeowner association dues were always $200/year. This year it was increased to $500 and we got a note that if the golf course stays open, it will increase to $1500 year! So, it looks like the "green space" option is getting more attractive. Apparently, it's been done with success in other places and our committee is investigating. The whole thing is SO frustrating.

Sounds like it's time to either bring in the lawyers or put up a guillotine in the village square.

Shannon, I didn't realize that the clubhouse was going to be closed, will it be taken down? I thought from what I originally heard it was going to be part of what was turned over to the homeowners association. Without that or at least some kind of clubhouse and storage area for the carts the golf course is basically useless.

Have they given you any information about how they're going to be using a major increase in homeowners association fees? Especially considering you are getting the golf course for free it seems like it should basically pay for itself with the fees from players covering the maintenance costs. Is part of a major increase next year to pay for a new clubhouse?

I may be way off base but it seems like your homeowners association got out lawyered in this whole deal in the homeowners are going to get S*$&ed in the long run. I'm assuming even if it is turned into green space it's going to cost you a lot more per year because the areas will have to be maintained, County ordinances won't let them just be left wild!