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Part of me knows this is likely a dumb question

by Leah S » Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:08 pm

When a caterer adds on a "service charge" is that the gratuity? Or is that truly a service charge that pays for dish and linen cleaning, use and possible breakage of glasses and dishes, etc., etc..

Yes I should ask the caterer, but I want your opinions, too. I'm planning an event and getting down to some serious penny pinching since I'm working with a beer budget and champagne tastes. You know the issues.

The comes from several years ago when I planned an event with a service charge and discovered that a gratuity was also expected. This is a different venue. Is it an individual thing or an industry thing? I'm not trying to be cheap, I've just got to make a budget.
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Re: Part of me knows this is likely a dumb question

by Antonia L » Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:37 pm

No, a service charge is not gratuity. It covers costs incurred doing business as a caterer, and those vary from caterer to caterer. I think caterers should consider using a different name for the charge, because it confuses clients. Working in the events world, I've dealt with several confused clients and had to explain that gratuity and service charge are two separate things.
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Re: Part of me knows this is likely a dumb question

by Antonia L » Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:38 pm

Oh, and no, it's not a dumb question.
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Re: Part of me knows this is likely a dumb question

by Leah S » Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:47 pm

Thanks! OK, so do I tip on the pre-tax and pre-service charge amount? Or the fixed price that includes the tax and service charge?

Yes, my budget is getting that tight. Someone else set what I can charge without ever asking what the event would cost. fun times.
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Re: Part of me knows this is likely a dumb question

by Dan Thomas » Wed Feb 08, 2012 6:05 pm

It depends. The question you should be asking is that service charge your being charged "all inclusive" meaning including gratuites, taxes etc.

It differs from caterer to caterer. I personally like to charge people all inclusive when I cater on the side. Although, in my experience, most people almost always kick in a little more to tip out the staff as it is customary. I know I personally throw some cash to the servers and bartenders that work a function that I have booked through another company.
I also only quote prices per person or per item instead of some round bottom line number.

Most folks want just a round figure that they will be charged, because they know what their budget is.
However, that doesn't always work for me because everyone is going to always try to negotiate your price down from that figure like they are buying a car, I know what my expenses will be upfront and what my time is worth, but it's harder to explain it in lump sum terms.

However, when you tell people the price you are going to charge by the person or item, I've found they sort of lose the incentive to negotiate, because the bottom line seems smaller by saying "I'm going to charge you $20 per person for the 200 coming to your wedding" instead of "I'll charge you $4000 for that." That way, when they start trying to nickel and dime you on the price, it makes it much easier for me to explain to the prospecitve client that they can't have certain things they want for less than the quoted price and can offer alternatives to fit with-in their budget. If they don't want to tip out the staff or seem really tight, then I'll build the gratuities into the price per person. Did I make it clear as mud? :roll: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Part of me knows this is likely a dumb question

by Leah S » Wed Feb 08, 2012 6:57 pm

"clear as mud."

The caterer did quote me an all inclusive price, then explained that by saying the all inclusive included the tax and service charge.

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Re: Part of me knows this is likely a dumb question

by Antonia L » Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:09 pm

Then the "all-inclusive" price you were quoted is "all-inclusive" of tax and service charge. Your gratuity would be on top of that, the way I'm reading it.

It varies from caterer to caterer, as Dan said. His "all-inclusive" seems to be "all-inclusive" of tax, service charge and gratuity. The "all" in "all-inclusive" is up for interpretation by any given caterer. :D

So the question is a good one to ask, but it looks like you just need to ask your caterer what their definition of "is" is, so to speak.
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Re: Part of me knows this is likely a dumb question

by Shane Campbell » Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:24 pm

[quote="Antonia L"So the question is a good one to ask, but it looks like you just need to ask your caterer what their definition of "is" is, so to speak.[/quote]

Antonia, only you and Clinton can get away with asking this question! :lol:
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Re: Part of me knows this is likely a dumb question

by Jackie R. » Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:18 am

Shane Campbell wrote:[quote="Antonia L]"So the question is a good one to ask, but it looks like you just need to ask your caterer what their definition of "is" is, so to speak.[/quote]

Antonia, only you and Clinton can get away with asking this question! :lol:[/quote]


C'mon, Shane - Hillary would never have to ask what "is".
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Re: Part of me knows this is likely a dumb question

by Gayle DeM » Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:10 am

by Jackie R. » Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:18 pm

Shane Campbell wrote:
[quote="Antonia L]"So the question is a good one to ask, but it looks like you just need to ask your caterer what their definition of "is" is, so to speak.[/quote]

Antonia, only you and Clinton can get away with asking this question! [/quote]


C'mon, Shane - Hillary would never have to ask what "is"[/quote][/quote]


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