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Why do groups do this?.

by Bill P » Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:49 pm

I just returned from lunch at the Blue River Cafe in Milltown, IN.. For those who may not know, the original BRC burned to the ground in a May 2009 fire and they owners decided to rebuild and re-opened this summer and that was/is a real boost for this small community. But, I digress.

The BRC seats approx. 45 for lunch and when we walked in around noonish the place was about 2/3 full including a group of 12 at one table. Now, I don't know what time they arrived, but their food had already been served. Over the course of the next 45 minutes, the place became absolutely slammed with every table filled to capacity. The group had long since finished eating, paid their 12 individual bills <snark> and they sat and sat and sat while other potential customers patiently waited for a table, although some of those wait-listed tired of waiting and left. And the group continued sitting there jabbering away without without any food on the table. (I nicknamed them "Occupy Milltown")

NJ and I left at 1:20 and there they continued to sit. The BRC staff was quite gracious and I'm sure they appreciated the 12 asses parked in the chairs, but I was astonished that some people are so inconsiderate and rude.
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Re: Why do groups do this?.

by GaryF » Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:11 pm

Bill, it's the nature of the business I fear, and I'm sure we have all been guity of it once or twice. Everyone in the business knows this and accepts it. Unless the group was a walk-in and told at the time of seating that they must leave for a reservation in an hour (or whatever) they have every right to enjoy their table.
Though it seems rude to others the day may be very significant to the diners, it could be a good- bye party or a reunion etc. In a non-reserved, first come first served establishment this has always been the deal.
Believe me, from a restaurant's viewpoint there is nothing better than getting the people in and out at a brisk pace, but it's the hospitality business providing and providing a place to socialize is all a part of it. There is a part of me that wishes this fact were different but this party had no obligation to do other than have a good time.
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Re: Why do groups do this?.

by Bill P » Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:07 pm

Gary-
Of course you are correct!!
It's just that I felt a local place that made a very tough decision to re-open in a struggling community during a tough economy might have deserved a bit of consideration. I'm sure the year they were closed for rebuilding was challenging for the owners. Selfishly, I simply love the place and want them to succeed.
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Re: Why do groups do this?.

by Robin Garr » Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:19 pm

Never mind accommodating table-sitters! Will they give you Coke without ice? :lol:
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Re: Why do groups do this?.

by Bill P » Fri Nov 18, 2011 5:24 pm

To clarify, the fire was in 2010, not 2009 as mentioned in my original post.
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Re: Why do groups do this?.

by Mark Head » Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:42 pm

Bill P wrote:To clarify, the fire was in 2010, not 2009 as mentioned in my original post.


Whew I thought I dropped a year there somewhere....thanks for the correction.
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Re: Why do groups do this?.

by Shane Campbell » Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:15 pm

I've been there twice since they reopened, both for times for lunch on Thursdays. The place was absolutely dead both times. The food was good (lunch ribeye, chicken pasta special) and they have BBC Amber on tap. I really like the place and hope it succeeds as well.

I personally can't set idle at a table and relax when I can see people are waiting to eat. If I were management there I would consider seating overflow diners in the back room if necessary. When I was there during slow hours the service was friendly but non-attentive.
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Re: Why do groups do this?.

by Madeline Peters » Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:19 am

I have never been so I am curious why people go to Milltown, Indiana? It seems out of the way.
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Re: Why do groups do this?.

by Bill P » Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:23 am

Madeline-
I live quite close to Milltown so it is not nearly so out of the way as say Louisville. :wink:
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Re: Why do groups do this?.

by Madeline Peters » Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:07 am

Oh! :lol: I am still trying to get my bearings. How far of a drive is Milltown from downtown Louisville? Looks like a fun little restaurant to visit.
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Re: Why do groups do this?.

by Bill P » Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:13 am

Madeline Peters wrote:Oh! :lol: I am still trying to get my bearings. How far of a drive is Milltown from downtown Louisville? Looks like a fun little restaurant to visit.


Well, probably 35-40 minutes when the Minton re-opens. As Shane mentioned, the service is a bit slow, so don't plan on a quick lunch. Also, they are only open Thurs.-Sun which seems odd to me.
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by Shane Campbell » Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:04 pm

by Madeline Peters » Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:19 am

I have never been so I am curious why people go to Milltown, Indiana? It seems out of the way.


The bar at the Blue River Cafe is shoehorned in. The bar room is only about ten feet wide, maybe thirty feet long, and it sits in the middle between the front dining room and the large back room which is set up for live bands and dancing.

The bar proper is only six feet long or so, situated near the dinning room entrance and is made of lacquered wood...I think. I was sitting at that bar on Thursday. Not last Thursday, but a Thursday, and I was the only one in the bar room. I had been sitting there for at least ten minutes, and though the dining room had less than a dozen people in it, I hadn't caught a glimpse of the staff. I was in no hurry, so it didn't matter. I was looking out into the dining room when she came in.

She was a frizzy blonde, well past young but not old at all. She wore character on her face for makeup and I knew before she said anything that she would have a husky voice from a life of smoking cigarettes. I was sure she smiled a lot and she moved with vigor. She came in through the front, walked straight through the dining room and hopped up onto the bar stool on the end. She put down the paper she'd been carrying and said, “Mind if I smoke hon?” her voice barely hiding a cough. I allowed it was a bar and legal as far as I knew.

She looked over then and saw I was smiling. She smiled too and said “I know but I always ask anyway.”

I can't remember how she was dressed. I didn't stare mind you, but I can see her face quite well even now. The waitress came in almost immediately and greeted the woman with a hug. I thought, “bet the service will get stepped up a notch now.” They chatted a few minutes, the usual stuff it sounded like; but even though they were less than six feet from me I didn't hear a word of it. They weren't whispering and I'm not hard of hearing but their conversation, just a murmur, was of no consequence to me.

I wondered who she was and why she was here by herself. It's fun to try to guess the back story; some call it people watching. I fall prey to it often. When you're at the bar at the Blue River Cafe on a Thursday, well I had already read all the labels on the liquor bottles while waiting so what other option was there?

As I suspected, both our orders were soon taken and I now had a bright shiny BBC amber ale sitting in front of me. It was about half calf slobbers though, so I wouldn't be drinking it any time soon. The waitress assured me she would refill it for me without charge. Again, I smiled.

When the waitress had gone, we made appropriate small talk. I don't remember what we talked about, the usual things two strangers can easily manage when they're alone in a bar. She told me she lived in Louisville. “Really?” I started to ask if she was passing by on business. No wait, she knew the waitress so instead I said, “Are you from the area?”

“Not originally,” she said, “but I come here as often as I can. I know people here and I lived here for a while but I don't now....” Move along nothing to see here.

The lunch ribeye was the best I can remember ever having, not 3D Valley Beef, but I was told it was local just the same.

If your passing Milltown on Hwy 64 you won't see it. You must get off the road and go there on purpose. If you do, you'll find a nice little country town with a brand new bridge. The bridge spans the Blue River. I used to live on the Blue River. though not near here, and I spent much of my childhood playing in the creek as we called it. Lifting rocks to find crawdads and sometimes water snakes! Catching beautiful little sun fish painted like rainbows.

The Blue River runs right through this old mill town and you can take a canoe down it. If you come here at the right time you can float down this fork of the Blue with hardly a paddle needed. At other times you'll want your wading shoes.

If you find the time to do that, the Blue River Cafe stands proud of the west bank and across the street. It's a good place to eat if you have the time on a Thursday afternoon.
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Re: Why do groups do this?.

by Jeffrey D. » Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:11 pm

Shane,

Yours has to be the best literary post I've ever read on LHB (or any other website, for that matter). Absolutely first rate. I thought it was Raymond Chandler or Dashiell Hammett or Robert B. Parker. All it was missing was a dark and stormy night. Beautiful work!

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The bar at the Blue River Cafe is shoehorned in. The bar room is only about ten feet wide, maybe thirty feet long, and it sits in the middle between the front dining room and the large back room which is set up for live bands and dancing.

The bar proper is only six feet long or so, situated near the dinning room entrance and is made of lacquered wood...I think. I was sitting at that bar on Thursday. Not last Thursday, but a Thursday, and I was the only one in the bar room. I had been sitting there for at least ten minutes, and though the dining room had less than a dozen people in it, I hadn't caught a glimpse of the staff. I was in no hurry, so it didn't matter. I was looking out into the dining room when she came in.

She was a frizzy blonde, well past young but not old at all. She wore character on her face for makeup and I knew before she said anything that she would have a husky voice from a life of smoking cigarettes. I was sure she smiled a lot and she moved with vigor. She came in through the front, walked straight through the dining room and hopped up onto the bar stool on the end. She put down the paper she'd been carrying and said, “Mind if I smoke hon?” her voice barely hiding a cough. I allowed it was a bar and legal as far as I knew.

She looked over then and saw I was smiling. She smiled too and said “I know but I always ask anyway.”

I can't remember how she was dressed. I didn't stare mind you, but I can see her face quite well even now. The waitress came in almost immediately and greeted the woman with a hug. I thought, “bet the service will get stepped up a notch now.” They chatted a few minutes, the usual stuff it sounded like; but even though they were less than six feet from me I didn't hear a word of it. They weren't whispering and I'm not hard of hearing but their conversation, just a murmur, was of no consequence to me.

I wondered who she was and why she was here by herself. It's fun to try to guess the back story; some call it people watching. I fall prey to it often. When you're at the bar at the Blue River Cafe on a Thursday, well I had already read all the labels on the liquor bottles while waiting so what other option was there?

As I suspected, both our orders were soon taken and I now had a bright shiny BBC amber ale sitting in front of me. It was about half calf slobbers though, so I wouldn't be drinking it any time soon. The waitress assured me she would refill it for me without charge. Again, I smiled.

When the waitress had gone, we made appropriate small talk. I don't remember what we talked about, the usual things two strangers can easily manage when they're alone in a bar. She told me she lived in Louisville. “Really?” I started to ask if she was passing by on business. No wait, she knew the waitress so instead I said, “Are you from the area?”

“Not originally,” she said, “but I come here as often as I can. I know people here and I lived here for a while but I don't now....” Move along nothing to see here.

The lunch ribeye was the best I can remember ever having, not 3D Valley Beef, but I was told it was local just the same.

If your passing Milltown on Hwy 64 you won't see it. You must get off the road and go there on purpose. If you do, you'll find a nice little country town with a brand new bridge. The bridge spans the Blue River. I used to live on the Blue River. though not near here, and I spent much of my childhood playing in the creek as we called it. Lifting rocks to find crawdads and sometimes water snakes! Catching beautiful little sun fish painted like rainbows.

The Blue River runs right through this old mill town and you can take a canoe down it. If you come here at the right time you can float down this fork of the Blue with hardly a paddle needed. At other times you'll want your wading shoes.

If you find the time to do that, the Blue River Cafe stands proud of the west bank and across the street. It's a good place to eat if you have the time on a Thursday afternoon.
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Re: Why do groups do this?.

by Jackie R. » Fri Nov 25, 2011 9:45 pm

Jeffrey D. wrote:Shane,

Yours has to be the best literary post I've ever read on LHB (or any other website, for that matter). Absolutely first rate. I thought it was Raymond Chandler or Dashiell Hammett or Robert B. Parker. All it was missing was a dark and stormy night. Beautiful work!


I have to agree, Jeffrey. I'm glad that I'm not alone in thinking that Shane's shares are very creative and profoundly appreciated. You'll never hear me say that I've had enough of them.
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Re: Why do groups do this?.

by Alan H » Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:41 am

Madeline Peters wrote:I have never been so I am curious why people go to Milltown, Indiana? It seems out of the way.


I usually take staff outings to Milltown for canoeing down the Blue River, quite a bit of the staff looks forward to going every year :D

http://cavecountrycanoes.com/

On another note the Blue River is spring fed and is one of the cleanest rivers in the country
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