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by Madeline Peters » Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:24 pm

Loved it! The restaurant site is amazing. Did anyone notice the enormous windows in the back of the restaurant. You could actually open them. I had the brisket tacos and they were great.

It broke my heart to see the adjacent row of historical buildings with their beautiful facades roped off and waiting for the wrecking crew. How Sad!

Steve P were you there? I swear I saw you looking around the restaurant.
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Re: Doc Crow's

by Robin Garr » Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:02 pm

Madeline Peters wrote:Steve P were you there? I swear I saw you looking around the restaurant.

You sure that wasn't me? Marsha and Ed V and I were there, and we went looking around. I don't think Stevie and I are dead-ringers for each other, but what do I know? :lol:
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by Madeline Peters » Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:06 pm

Huh! I looked at Mark and I said I think that is Steve. I had only met Steve and Ed once. Not sure if they would know what I look like. Hey Robin...now I know what you look like 8)
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Re: Doc Crow's

by Jeremy J » Sat Feb 12, 2011 4:25 am

Madeline Peters wrote: It broke my heart to see the adjacent row of historical buildings with their beautiful facades roped off and waiting for the wrecking crew. How Sad!


This may get me in trouble somehow, but Todd Blue is an arrogant jerk. I'll never forget how he treated me when I worked at Primo. I hope he enjoys tearing down Louisville's history. I'm sure he'll actually build something and it won't become a festering hole next to 2 or 3 beautifully restored buildings. Not. Funny how easy it was to restore the buildings that Bearnos, Doc Crows, and O'sheas were in...not economically feasible eh?
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by Heather Y » Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:00 am

Actually, I think he is the nicer of the "Blues" Bros
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Re: Doc Crow's

by Jeremy J » Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:21 am

Well, that may be so, but I'm just still completely disgusted with his public comments in the Leo article. Completely flippant and disrespectful in my opinion. I'm not one to publicly insult former guests, but being the public figure that he is and factoring in how completely hellbent he is on just ripping those buildings down, his behavior as a guest makes a lot more sense to me now and I don't feel bad calling him out.
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Re: Doc Crow's

by Jeremy J » Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:22 am

Back on topic-

I was at the soft opening. Fantastic. This place is going to be a huge hit!
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Re: Doc Crow's

by Steve P » Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:50 am

Nope...Wasn't us. A new place like this, we usually wait a few weeks for the brouhaha to die down before venturing fourth (artisan pizza excepted). That and we didn't feel like fighting the crowds after the Kid Rock show.
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Re: Doc Crow's

by Steve P » Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:10 am

Jeremy J wrote:
Madeline Peters wrote: It broke my heart to see the adjacent row of historical buildings with their beautiful facades roped off and waiting for the wrecking crew. How Sad!


This may get me in trouble somehow, but Todd Blue is an arrogant jerk. I'll never forget how he treated me when I worked at Primo. I hope he enjoys tearing down Louisville's history. I'm sure he'll actually build something and it won't become a festering hole next to 2 or 3 beautifully restored buildings. Not. Funny how easy it was to restore the buildings that Bearnos, Doc Crows, and O'sheas were in...not economically feasible eh?


I'm pretty sure if you asked the tradesmen involved, there was nothing "easy" about restoring the buildings Bearnos, Doc Crows and O'Sheas occupy. I'm also pretty sure there was nothing cheap about it. So, personally, I'm going to withhold my applause for another 2 or 3 years until we discover if the new found vitality for these particular buildings is sustainable.

Concerning the "Whiskey Row" buildings, my lovely bride has been in the construction business for 20 years. She interacts with designers, architects and tradesmen and contractors every day. The word coming down from these professionals is that these particular buildings weren't salvageable 10 years ago, they are not salvageable now and they won't be salvageable 10 years from now...No matter how many people wring their hands. What people SHOULD be concerned about is that 450K of your tax dollars are being used in the demolition. Now THAT is the "wrong" part of the equation.
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Re: Doc Crow's

by Jeremy J » Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:25 am

I'd be happy to help pay for even more with my tax dollars if they were trying to find a way to save some of those buildings.
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Re: Doc Crow's

by Steve P » Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:44 am

Jeremy J wrote:I'd be happy to help pay for even more with my tax dollars if they were trying to find a way to save some of those buildings.


Jeremy,

Please don't misunderstand me, I'm not an advocate of tearing down one's history for the sake of tearing it down. Neither am I universally opposed to using tax dollars to help maintain and/or restore ones history. That being said, their comes a time when said restoration becomes (a) financially impractical and/or (b) near structurally impossible. From everything I hear from people in THAT business, these particular buildings have reached that tipping point in both instances. Personally, if I'm running this dog and pony show...I'm requiring that (a) as much material as possible is salvaged from any demolition (b) as much of that salvage as possible is used in any new development and (c) any redevelopment must meet certain (historical based) criteria (i.e. recreate the original facades).

Anyway, I'll shut up about it lest I begin sounding Phil-like :wink:

Now back to Doc Crows...Sounds awesome, can't wait to try it.
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by Madeline Peters » Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:55 am

I have to give a shout out to the waitstaff. What a great group. The POS system was down and those poor waiters were having a heck of a time. The place was packed with large groups of buisness workers each requesting individual tabs. The waiters had to hand write every transaction. They could not have been nicer considering what they were going through.
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Re: Doc Crow's

by Bill Veneman » Sat Feb 12, 2011 12:13 pm

Jeremy J wrote:
Madeline Peters wrote: It broke my heart to see the adjacent row of historical buildings with their beautiful facades roped off and waiting for the wrecking crew. How Sad!


This may get me in trouble somehow, but Todd Blue is an arrogant jerk. I'll never forget how he treated me when I worked at Primo. I hope he enjoys tearing down Louisville's history. I'm sure he'll actually build something and it won't become a festering hole next to 2 or 3 beautifully restored buildings. Not. Funny how easy it was to restore the buildings that Bearnos, Doc Crows, and O'sheas were in...not economically feasible eh?

Jeremy, you won't get a "poo poo" outta me on that....if he had the balls, he'd do what is right for history and not his fat enough wallet.....<<<<<Stepping away from the soapbox. :mrgreen:
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Re: Doc Crow's

by Jeremy J » Sat Feb 12, 2011 12:41 pm

A friend of mine really has it right- if the economy was a little better I'd be less concerned, but not only are they tearing it down with OUR tax dollars, I'm betting that his supposed development project never happens. It'll be yet another festering hole in our cityscape for years and he'll eventually tar it over to make another surface parking lot downtown.
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Re: Doc Crow's

by Jeremy J » Sat Feb 12, 2011 12:43 pm

Steve P wrote:Jeremy,

Please don't misunderstand me, I'm not an advocate of tearing down one's history for the sake of tearing it down. Neither am I universally opposed to using tax dollars to help maintain and/or restore ones history. That being said, their comes a time when said restoration becomes (a) financially impractical and/or (b) near structurally impossible. From everything I hear from people in THAT business, these particular buildings have reached that tipping point in both instances. Personally, if I'm running this dog and pony show...I'm requiring that (a) as much material as possible is salvaged from any demolition (b) as much of that salvage as possible is used in any new development and (c) any redevelopment must meet certain (historical based) criteria (i.e. recreate the original facades).

Anyway, I'll shut up about it lest I begin sounding Phil-like :wink:


I think that's pretty reasonable, Steve.
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