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Cheese, Artisan Cheese, I like to try it Please

by Thom Yates » Tue Jan 04, 2011 8:26 pm

Sometimes I wonder if I'm one of only a few " Cheese Heads" that resides in Kentucky. Personally I consider myself a beginner at appreciating great cheese. I'd like to know if it's just me or if there are others out there? I can't appreciate the micro brews or wine like I used to because of my gout. So I've switched to Cheese, wonderful cheese. Really the appreciation of that is not unlike the appreciation of wine or fine beer. It's an art, the aging of fine cheese.

So with this " goofy " over-acting behind me, I'd like to know what the readers of this little quote think makes a "Great Cheese" and what their favorite is & why?

Please ?

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Re: Cheese, Artisan Cheese, I like to try it Please

by Dan Thomas » Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:09 am

Although I like all kinds of cheese, my personal favorites fall into a couple of categories, Stinky bleus or really sharp Cheddars. :D
I've been enjoying Kerrygold Irish Cheddar of late and I also REALLY like anything from Grafton Village in Vermont. If you can get your hands on some of the four year old, you have something truly remarkable.
I also am quite fond of a good stinky Stilton or Roquefort. Although usually not as stinky, Point Reyes and Maytag Bleu Cheeses I've think are both quite fine!
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Re: Cheese, Artisan Cheese, I like to try it Please

by Steve H » Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:11 am

I like cheese toooo much. Creamy cheese, pungent cheese, aged cheese, you name it. I like it. Aged gouda is my favorite right now.

Educate me though....
How is it that cheese is better for gout than alcoholic beverages? I thought it was rich, fatty foods that led to gout. And it wouldn't surprise me that red wine might might actually improve gout symptoms.
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Re: Cheese, Artisan Cheese, I like to try it Please

by Van Campbell » Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:32 am

I must preface this by saying that I am a fairly recent addition to the Kenny's Farmhouse Cheese team as a sales and marketing representative so I am somewhat biased here but I will attempt to answer at least part of your question.

I am also a lover of cheese and interestingly enough there are some great cheeses being made regionally. What makes cheese "great" you ask? To me, the use of raw milk makes a HUGE difference both in depth of flavor and nutritional content. Pasteurizing cheese has a flavor-dampening effect, and even more importantly is a process that while killing possibly harmful bacteria, rids milk of inherent digestive enzymes that help us digest cheese more naturally. Raw milk cheese, while just as high in fat as processed cheese is less "fattening" because one's body can process the fat more effectively. So, it not only tastes better, but its BETTER FOR YOU! How often do those two things happen at the same time?

How can we trust raw milk cheese? The government requires that all raw-milk cheese be aged a minimum of 60 days to secure that all harmful bacteria has expired. Pasteurization was a process created to standardize milk by large dairy companies who were sourcing from many farms. If the milk comes from a singular trusted source, where each milking can be carefully tested, raw milk is generally considered to be safe, and pasteurization may not be necessary. Even in conventional every-day cheeses such as Swiss, Colby, or Mild Cheddar, the flavor of a raw milk cheese comes across beautifully. Kenny Mattingly is making these very cheeses and many more, 25+ varieties actually, from Cheddar's to authentic farmstead Gouda's to full bodies Bleu's.

Judy Schad at Capriole Farms over in Southern Indiana uses raw goat milk in quite a few of her INCREDIBLE masterpieces. In fact, pretty much everything that is coming out of that farm can compete with anything else. Judy Schad's operation, as well as Kenny's are "farmstead" cheese making operations. This means simply that every step of the process, from taking care of the animals, to milking, making, hand-cutting, and shipping all happens on the farm to ensure the highest level of Quality control. Others who have more recently joined the farmstead revolution in the region are Sappori d'Italia and Stonecross farm, both in Kentucky (links below). In my opinion a really great cheese selection at one location within Louisville, local and international, is over at Lotsa Pasta and the Cheesemonger Will knows a whole lot and will point you in all kind of interesting directions! wine Market on Bardstown Rd and Whole Foods are great as well. Many regional producers are represented at local farmers markets.

Hope this helps! Sorry if this is T.M.I!!! Happy cheese eating!

http://www.kennysfarmhousecheese.com
http://www.capriolegoatcheese.com
http://www.cheeseitalia.com
http://www.stonecrossfarm.com
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Re: Cheese, Artisan Cheese, I like to try it Please

by Brad Keeton » Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:36 am

Steve H wrote:I Educate me though....
How is it that cheese is better for gout than alcoholic beverages? I thought it was rich, fatty foods that led to gout. And it wouldn't surprise me that red wine might might actually improve gout symptoms.


I'm not a doctor, but from Wikipedia:

LifestyleDietary causes account for about 12% of gout,[2] and include a strong association with the consumption of alcohol, fructose-sweetened drinks, meat, and seafood.[4] Other triggers include physical trauma and surgery.[6] Recent studies have found dietary factors once believed to be associated are in fact not, including the intake of purine-rich vegetables and total protein.[8][9] Coffee, vitamin C and dairy products consumption and physical fitness appear to decrease the risk.[10][11][12] This is believed to be partly due to their effect in reducing insulin resistance.[12]


Sounds to me like alcohol = bad for gout, dairy products = good.
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Re: Cheese, Artisan Cheese, I like to try it Please

by Kyle L » Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:58 pm

Give me bleu cheese. And lots of it.
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Re: Cheese, Artisan Cheese, I like to try it Please

by Corey A » Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:10 pm

Extra aged Beemster gouda for me please! I love the complex flavor that it has.
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Re: Cheese, Artisan Cheese, I like to try it Please

by Robin Garr » Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:26 pm

Don't hesitate to go locavore - it's easy to do in this town with wide access to Capriole goat cheeses from Southern Indiana and Kenny Mattingly's variety of cheeses in Kentucky available at most of the usual suspects - Doll's, Burger's, Lotsa Pasta, etc. There's also a tiny cheesery down around Lexington that makes amazing Italian-style cheeses ... I'm losing their name at the moment, but they were at the Beargrass farmers' market at least once this summer.
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Re: Cheese, Artisan Cheese, I like to try it Please

by Steve H » Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:44 pm

Brad Keeton wrote:I'm not a doctor, but from Wikipedia:

LifestyleDietary causes account for about 12% of gout,[2] and include a strong association with the consumption of alcohol, fructose-sweetened drinks, meat, and seafood.[4] Other triggers include physical trauma and surgery.[6] Recent studies have found dietary factors once believed to be associated are in fact not, including the intake of purine-rich vegetables and total protein.[8][9] Coffee, vitamin C and dairy products consumption and physical fitness appear to decrease the risk.[10][11][12] This is believed to be partly due to their effect in reducing insulin resistance.[12]


Sounds to me like alcohol = bad for gout, dairy products = good.


Well, I guess my diary and coffee consumption is counteracting the alcohol!

I had thought that red wine, like coffee, was associated with reducing insulin resistance and metabolic syndrome, which are conditions positively correlated with gout according to that same article.

To resolve this issue, I shall have to increase my red wine experimentation!
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Re: Cheese, Artisan Cheese, I like to try it Please

by John Hagan » Wed Jan 05, 2011 2:26 pm

Robin Garr wrote:. There's also a tiny cheesery down around Lexington that makes amazing Italian-style cheeses ... I'm losing their name at the moment, but they were at the Beargrass farmers' market at least once this summer.


Were you thinking of Sapore d'Italia?
http://www.cheeseitalia.com/
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by Robin Garr » Wed Jan 05, 2011 2:50 pm

John Hagan wrote:Were you thinking of Sapore d'Italia?
http://www.cheeseitalia.com/

Indeed I was! Thanks, John! Add it to the list of excellent local/regional cheeses.
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Re: Cheese, Artisan Cheese, I like to try it Please

by Madeline M » Wed Jan 05, 2011 2:53 pm

Pretty sure that's the place Robin's referring to. They do make some incredible cheeses! Was glad to see their items popping up in several places around town...even if I can't eat it right now.
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Re: Cheese, Artisan Cheese, I like to try it Please

by Deb Hall » Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:49 pm

Robin Garr wrote:Don't hesitate to go locavore - it's easy to do in this town with wide access to Capriole goat cheeses from Southern Indiana and Kenny Mattingly's variety of cheeses in Kentucky available at most of the usual suspects - Doll's, Burger's, Lotsa Pasta, etc. There's also a tiny cheesery down around Lexington that makes amazing Italian-style cheeses ... I'm losing their name at the moment, but they were at the Beargrass farmers' market at least once this summer.


Robin,

I think you are thinking of the Sappori D'Italia
folks previously mentioned. They were at Beargrass at least once last year. Really great stuff. They carry their cheeses at Lotsa too.

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Re: Cheese, Artisan Cheese, I like to try it Please

by Alison Hanover » Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:55 pm

Stilton, Brie, Extra sharp cheddar not the waxy kind but the proper kind!!, Havarti, Gouda, Boursin,, cheshire, the list is endless. Cheese is my favorite food. Just wish it wasn't so expensive. Particularly the imported ones like Stilton. Did you know that cheddar cheese if not made in Cheddar, England is not considered a proper cheddar? Kerrygold is pretty good though as stated by someone else.
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Re: Cheese, Artisan Cheese, I like to try it Please

by Deb Hall » Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:08 pm

Thom,

I am a major cheese lover. I also strongly encourage you to go to Lotsa Pasta and ask for Will. He will take input on what you like and then slice you off samples. He's the most knowledgeable cheese purveyor in town in my opinion. ( He's also now doing the cheeses at Mozz).

Here are some of my favorites:
Anything Blue
Point Reyes Blue
Cabrales
Stilton
( Did I mention anything blue? :wink: )
Kenny's cheeses
Capriole: goat cheese, Menage a Trois with pesto and sundried tomato, O'Bannon, Mt. St. Francis
Grafton Village Vermont Cheddar 4 or 5 year ( seeing a trend here, Dan? :wink: )
Aged Pecorino
Beemster 18 month aged Gouda
Good Manchego ( I have a hard time finding one here)
Montgomery Cheddar
Mt. Tam ( Cowgirl Creamery)
Fresh Burrata from A16 Restaurant in San Francisco - but you have to fly there to get it..


Enjoy your new "hobbie". Be warned- it's addictive,
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