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Restaurant Websites

by Matt MB » Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:36 pm

I've seen the pitiful and the amazing, and I'm ready for the top 5 - bottom 5 list (Louisville edition, of course). Let's see what you think first:

http://www.juliansanchez.com/2010/12/27/why-are-restaurant-web-sites-so-bad/

On Twitter, my friends Shani and Erie are engaged in a bit of time-honored kvetching about the universally-acknowledged awfulness of restaurant Web sites. Who thinks it’s good idea to blast annoying music at people going to your site? Why do they so often rely on Flash, which doesn’t really add anything to the experience, when half the time people are looking up the site on mobile devices to get basic information? Why this bizarre preference for menus in PDF format?

The really strange thing to me isn’t that restaurants would make these mistakes initially. These are, after all, mostly small brick-and-mortar businesses whose Web presence is pretty peripheral to what they do. The truly baffling thing is that people have been complaining about these exact same things for years; they’re universally acknowledged to be errors by anyone with a lick of design sense. But you find them replicated even on the sites of fancypants restaurants that have obviously thrown at least a moderate amount of cash into site design recently. Is it just that nobody tells them, that the folks in charge of commissioning these things are somehow still unaware that the superficially glitzy bells and whistles are actually annoying obstacles to usability? Or is there some deeper reason they’re purposefully sticking with bad design?

Update: I guess it’s lazy to pose the question without at least trying to cook up a few hypotheses. One possibility is that there’s an unfortunate feedback loop in effect. Lots of restaurant sites made these mistakes initially. The people commissioning the sites are probably general managers who don’t have a lot of time to spare thinking about Web design, and so they rely on a heuristic of seeing what other sites are doing and expecting their designers to come up with something similar. The designers may know better, but they realize that precisely because the site is peripheral, they’re going to be able to charge based on the superficial glitziness of the site’s appearance, not its actual usability—and indeed, given the suboptimal equilibrium, they’d likely have to burn time and energy explaining to the client why a more functional, better-designed site didn’t look like all the others.

Another possibility is that there’s an attempt at signalling going on. All you’re realistically going to need from a restaurant Web site is a few pages worth of basically static information, and maybe some reservation functionality, which is probably outsourced to OpenTable anyway. People probably aren’t going to be interacting with the site for more than a couple minutes. That means there’s limited ability to cue the user via the site that this is a higher-end joint, if that’s what you’re trying to do. (Design still works surprisingly well as a status marker, I’ve noticed—compare even a relatively kludgy major publication site with something like WorldNetDaily.) So you end up with a sort of Veblenesque “conspicuous consumption” on the splash page—lots of sound and graphics that actually detract from the functionality of the site, but broadcast that you’ve got money to burn on your Web presence. The people who just want directions or a reservation will end up using Google Maps and OpenTable anyway, so semiotics trump usability.

That’s a guess, anyway. It’d be interesting to talk to someone who actually makes these decisions at (or does Web design for) a higher-end restaurant to see what the actual thought process looks like.
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Re: Restaurant Websites

by Marsha L. » Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:43 pm

Oh, crap. That would have been a great column idea, MAAA_-AATT! *shakes fist*
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by Nora Boyle » Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:31 pm

Who's pages would you give examples of? When I go to a website for a local restaurant I don't find glitz and confusion, I can't think of a single example of such. PDF menu? That just means download it and print it yourself yes?
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by Madeline M » Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:52 pm

Websites for a lot of companies suck because people are cheap. They get a quote from a pro, freak out and find someone that will do the job for next to nothing, you get what you pay for! One of the reasons I left the field was because so many people thought they could do my job because they had Word/PowerPoint or even had bought an Adobe product at BestBuy and thus shouldn't have to pay me more much more than breadcrumbs. Seriously, I had counter offers on projects that would have paid less than McDonalds if everything ran on schedule and had no redesigns.

The majority of the problem starts with these "web design" pseudo products. They give the people so many options they think they have to use them all. As someone goes through the wizard in Word to set up a website it gives them the option to put in hideous colors, bad font, sounds, music, those really annoying mouse pointers, etc leading to the monstrosities you find all over the web.

Most people have no sense of design, portions or color psychology. I had a guy in one of my classes that designed a whole site in Pepto Bismol pink for a small company that did colon cleansing. :shock: Some colors are hard on the eyes and some associations just don't need to be made!

PDF menus are pet peeve of mine. I know it's purely lazy/convience for the so called designer, but they don't play nicely with my phone and more often than not that's where i'm looking up menus.
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Re: Restaurant Websites

by Jeremy J » Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:58 am

PDF's are commonly used because people expect them. They print well, are pretty much universal regardless of what font is used, and (unless you're a hack or trying to save space) you can copy and paste the text. When I first launched our site I used Jpegs only for the menus and I didn't hear the end of it.
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by Jayson L » Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:58 pm

Most popular media handhelds (how people usually see a restaurant site for the first time: ie: connection to/from navigation planes like Google Maps, Yelp and US) do not run Flash Player. Websites with innovative technology - anymore - get pushed to the side. HTML and PDF get people what they need immediatley when they need and in their hands. A good splash page tells people what they want to know quickly. I recently consulted to a company based in Cali who pushed more than 9K a month into Web/Marketing for no reason at all. Long story short - no one ever ventured passed their splash page if pertinent information about the restaurant was immediately available. (they also witnessed a 9 percent increase in sales while running my experiment) Flashy, over the top, gimick driven websites can be a double edged sword. If you create an idea, image and experience for a potential guest via media - and fail to deliver on your wbsite hype - people will be less apt to return...even if it is an equally stellar experience. Sometimes its best to lay up, dangle a carrot, inspire a little mystery and deliver a consistent experience that people will tell others about. Isnt part of the mystery of christmas NOT knowing whats in the pretty boxes under the tree?
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by Kyle L » Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:36 pm

Most people have no sense of design, portions or color psychology


Bingo. Plain and simple. I cringe every time I see another Point,Click,and DUH Web Page Utility.
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Re: Restaurant Websites

by Rob Coffey » Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:54 pm

Jeremy J wrote:PDF's are commonly used because people expect them. They print well, are pretty much universal regardless of what font is used, and (unless you're a hack or trying to save space) you can copy and paste the text. When I first launched our site I used Jpegs only for the menus and I didn't hear the end of it.


I expect text on the internet. No pdfs, no flash, no jpegs (for things that arent images). And text displays just fine on my phone too.
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by Leann C » Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:01 pm

One of my favorite bar/restaurants in Cincinnati has the most annoying website I've ever encountered.

I think this would be a good example of what not to do. Hint. You have to click on the front door to get started....
http://www.cityviewtavern.com/
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by Rob Coffey » Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:12 pm

Leann C wrote:One of my favorite bar/restaurants in Cincinnati has the most annoying website I've ever encountered.

I think this would be a good example of what not to do. Hint. You have to click on the front door to get started....
http://www.cityviewtavern.com/


Argh. Kill it! Kill it with fire!!!
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by Rob Coffey » Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:14 pm

Best website design ever:

http://www.google.com/

Although I think its gotten a bit cluttered over the years.
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by Madeline M » Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:46 pm

I'm with Rob on most everything he's said. That tavern site is impressively bad...I never did find the menu...do they even serve food? Though the sound effect on entering the door is very 1970's and made me giggle.

Point,Click,and DUH Web Page Utility...I'll have to remember that one!

As bad as some of the restaurant websites can be, they pale in comparison to the Great Dane breeder sites. I've contemplated offering free services to some of them because they are so obnoxious.
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by Deb Hall » Wed Dec 29, 2010 4:56 pm

Jayson L wrote:Most popular media handhelds (how people usually see a restaurant site for the first time: ie: connection to/from navigation planes like Google Maps, Yelp and US) do not run Flash Player. Websites with innovative technology - anymore - get pushed to the side. HTML and PDF get people what they need immediatley when they need and in their hands. A good splash page tells people what they want to know quickly. I recently consulted to a company based in Cali who pushed more than 9K a month into Web/Marketing for no reason at all. Long story short - no one ever ventured passed their splash page if pertinent information about the restaurant was immediately available. (they also witnessed a 9 percent increase in sales while running my experiment) Flashy, over the top, gimick driven websites can be a double edged sword. If you create an idea, image and experience for a potential guest via media - and fail to deliver on your wbsite hype - people will be less apt to return...even if it is an equally stellar experience. Sometimes its best to lay up, dangle a carrot, inspire a little mystery and deliver a consistent experience that people will tell others about. Isnt part of the mystery of christmas NOT knowing whats in the pretty boxes under the tree?

BTW, Jayson- my boss ( VP of our company) actually called me to his desk a couple of weeks ago to show me your site. He loved, loved the pig head and it's arty-ness. I told him it was your arm- right? ( He's also a big 732 Social fan). Just thought you'd want some feedback... :D
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Re: Restaurant Websites

by Matt Davis » Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:06 pm

I used to build websites on the side, self taught. I built our website http://www.louisvillestreetfood.com and it has some quirks that I am working on but overall I feel it looks rather professional.

I also built and maintain my homeowners association website as a cheap way to get out of paying the dues every year. http://www.skylineacreshoa.com

The basic problem with most websites is that they add so much unnecessary information to make their company look bigger than it is. They think because Sony has 4 million options to click on they need just as many options to compete. Some of the most elegant websites I have seen were so simplistic.

Louisville Street Food doesn't have much information to convey at this time so the website is the perfect size to grow into, the homeowners association president loves our website because it conveys exactly the information that it should and leaves the excess out.

This stuff really isnt that difficult to understand. I could teach anyone how to build and maintain their own website. It just takes time rather than money that could be applied to other advertising campaigns.
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