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Restaurant Critic un-masked

by Will Crawford » Fri Dec 24, 2010 11:51 am

http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thecutlin ... ng-reviews

Wow. different world. Here we welcome reviews as a way to get the word out.
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Re: Restaurant Critic un-masked

by Kyle L » Fri Dec 24, 2010 12:25 pm

I believe this to be more of the city in question than actual topic.
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Re: Restaurant Critic un-masked

by Gary Guss » Fri Dec 24, 2010 12:49 pm

Oh Noes somebody unmasked Robin !
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Re: Restaurant Critic un-masked

by Matt Davis » Fri Dec 24, 2010 12:51 pm

Honestly you could make an argument either way really. I welcome reviews as long as they are from a professional with an intimate knowledge of food. Clearly after 15 years she had to have some food knowledge by default.

But bad reviews can ruin a restaurant and eventually close your doors. If this particular chef had been burned before by bad reviews he could be jaded. Critics are supposed to be firm, fair and unbiased when providing their review of anything and sometimes critics can go a little overboard when negatively reviewing a place. If the place has rat shit painted walls I want to know and I want to be told as clearly as I can be but if the scallops were a little undercooked I don't think its right that some critics paint a picture of some miserable experience. Especially when they have such an impact on someones business.

Most food reviews I've read have been respectful and informative, pointing out highs and lows impartially. I have seen reviews that were really harsh and clearly exaggerated to the negative and in my mind thats a loss of professionalism.
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Re: Restaurant Critic un-masked

by Madeline M » Fri Dec 24, 2010 2:32 pm

This is her "unfavorable" review that started all of this. It's not a stellar review, it is critical but it doesn't sound too overhyped or like she went in expecting a bad meal. While she has a rep for being pretty harsh, this makes it seem likes it's more of a pompous restaurant owner that probably should have taken her words into consideration. This is far from a scathing review for her.

http://www.latimes.com/features/la-fo-review14-2009jan14,0,5965966.story?page=1

"After listening to the waiter try to explain the concept at the new XIV in West Hollywood, we're thoroughly confused. It's social dining, he tells us. But isn't all eating in restaurants inherently social? The menu is all small plates, but he doesn't call it a small-plates restaurant either. "So -- it's a tasting menu," someone prompts the waiter. "No, it's not," he answers. OK, then, could it be considered a do-it-yourself multi-course menu? Something like that.

Only problem: Because everyone at the table has to order the same thing, with my bunch of opinionated diners, we could be here all night negotiating. It happened on a first visit, and that was with like-minded guests. But with this group? I'm opting for the chef choosing. (Hey, but it's not a tasting menu.)

That's how it works at XIV, the 14th restaurant from highly successful San Francisco chef Michael Mina, who has, in addition to Michael Mina in San Francisco and several Vegas spots, the more traditional Stonehill Tavern at the St. Regis Monarch in Dana Point. Given its location on the Sunset Strip, this one has more in common with Vegas than San Francisco. It's glitzy and somewhat glib, pitched more to scenesters than serious food lovers.

It might help to bring an accountant along. Each of those small plates is $8 (except for a few extra-luxe dishes that add a supplement). Keep in mind that's per person, because if one person orders a dish, it's automatically multiplied by the number of people at the table. Order one $8 dish and if you're four diners, add $32 to the bill.

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Re: Restaurant Critic un-masked

by Robin Garr » Fri Dec 24, 2010 2:53 pm

Madeline M wrote:This is her "unfavorable" review that started all of this. It's not a stellar review, it is critical but it doesn't sound too overhyped or like she went in expecting a bad meal.

I don't think I have a rep for harshness, but if I had run into a similar situation here, I think I might have landed on them harder than she did.
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Re: Restaurant Critic un-masked

by Mark R. » Fri Dec 24, 2010 3:50 pm

The fact that everyone has to order the same thing certainly takes a lot away from what this restaurant could be! Everyone certainly has different dining preferences and to make everyone in your party conform to the same menu is just plain ridiculous! Half the fun of a tasting menu (even if they don't call it that) is sampling other people's dishes, this concept takes away the fun of that. If that restaurant was in Louisville I speculate it would fall flat on its face!

I certainly do agree with Robin but I think the review should have been a lot more negative based on the facts presented. It almost seems like the critic went easy on them based on the chefs reputation.
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Re: Restaurant Critic un-masked

by Matt Davis » Fri Dec 24, 2010 10:44 pm

I am confused, in the first article it said the owner that outed her was Noah Ellis of a Vietnamese place called Red Medicine. This next article was one of her reviews of XIV in West Hollywood. I don't understand what one has to do with the other.
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Re: Restaurant Critic un-masked

by Madeline M » Fri Dec 24, 2010 11:17 pm

Better article. The restaurant is a group project and it was one of the members she made mad.
http://eatocracy.cnn.com/2010/12/23/a-critical-outing/?iref=allsearch

"Red Medicine is the latest project from Umami Burger founder Adam Fleischman, Noah Ellis, previously of Michael Mina's restaurant group, and Chef Jordan Kahn, who counts stints with chefs Thomas Keller, Grant Achatz and Michael Mina on his résumé. So why would a brand new restaurant, with three high-profile partners, risk outing and angering the LA Times food critic, a fixture on the scene for the last 16 years?"
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Re: Restaurant Critic un-masked

by Matt Davis » Sat Dec 25, 2010 2:42 am

Well that makes sense, there is history. And he clearly stated they welcomed reviews just not from her. If she has the right to publicize her opinion they should have the right to publicize theirs.
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