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Re: Trader Joe's in Louisville

by Bill R » Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:30 pm

MikeG wrote: And yes Louisville is sorely lacking a pro sports team, I'm tired of having to drive hours away to see my favorite teams. It's high on the list of reasons I'm relocating.



Really?
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Re: Trader Joe's in Louisville

by Mark R. » Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:35 pm

annemarie m wrote:http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20110121/BUSINESS/301210089/1003/Trader+Joe+s++interested++in+Louisville
nothing is signed as of yet.

Of course a couple of months ago Trader Joe's says that they were not even considering Louisville when you spoke with them! For deals like this neither side is going to tell you the truth until they are ready to make an announcement.

They even double talked to a CJ reporter, here are his two blog entries:
http://blogs.courier-journal.com/derbycitycents/2010/12/01/trader-joes-in-louisville-debunking-the-latest-rumor/
http://blogs.courier-journal.com/derbycitycents/2011/01/21/trader-joes-in-louisville-shopping-center-rep-wont-confirm-report/
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Re: Trader Joe's in Louisville

by NDDuncan » Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:04 pm

Nimbus Couzin wrote:Blows Louisville away (no pun intended)


put 'em up...puuut..'em...uuup!!!

don't be dissen the ville!!

and really? Tuscon?? really?? :roll: I spent a week there one day...so hip! :lol:
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Re: Trader Joe's in Louisville

by Lonnie Turner » Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:26 pm

Mark R wrote:a couple of months ago Trader Joe's says that they were not even considering Louisville when you spoke with them! For deals like this neither side is going to tell you the truth until they are ready to make an announcement.

They even double talked to a CJ reporter, here are his two blog entries:


Does anybody know if this is some kind of closing strategy they have employed in other markets? This kind of "peek-a-boo" tease thing sure sounds deliberate. Or maybe I am a cynic...
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Re: Trader Joe's in Louisville

by MikeG » Fri Jan 21, 2011 11:17 pm

Bill R wrote:
MikeG wrote: And yes Louisville is sorely lacking a pro sports team, I'm tired of having to drive hours away to see my favorite teams. It's high on the list of reasons I'm relocating.



Really?


Yes really. We'll never get a hockey team here. Baseball is a long shot, football even longer. The NBA bores me and that seems to be the only one even remotely having overtures made toward. There other reasons too (public transit, entertainment tours the skip over this city, the miserable summers here, to name a few).
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Re: Trader Joe's in Louisville

by Nimbus Couzin » Sat Jan 22, 2011 1:41 am

Lonnie Turner wrote:
Mark R wrote:a couple of months ago Trader Joe's says that they were not even considering Louisville when you spoke with them! For deals like this neither side is going to tell you the truth until they are ready to make an announcement.

They even double talked to a CJ reporter, here are his two blog entries:


Does anybody know if this is some kind of closing strategy they have employed in other markets? This kind of "peek-a-boo" tease thing sure sounds deliberate. Or maybe I am a cynic...


They're most likely finalizing contracts. Until final deals are inked, EVERYTHING is negotiable. If TJ's were to announce officially, then they've given up leverage because it'd look bad to back out. Why give up potential bargaining power when you don't have to? We're probably talking details on the buildout and tenant improvements (to the building). Who pays for what, etc. Commercial leases can get complex and also include lengths and options, etc.
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Re: Trader Joe's in Louisville

by Leah S » Sat Jan 22, 2011 10:24 am

This news has exploded all over the city. Another chatboard I'm on is buzzing and my neighborhood association even has emails flying back and forth in excitement and also lamenting the possible demise of local indies. The news of TJ's coming to da'ville must be right up there with the 49ers striking gold . . .
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Re: Trader Joe's in Louisville

by Bill R » Sat Jan 22, 2011 10:29 am

MikeG wrote:
Bill R wrote:
MikeG wrote: And yes Louisville is sorely lacking a pro sports team, I'm tired of having to drive hours away to see my favorite teams. It's high on the list of reasons I'm relocating.



Really?


Yes really. We'll never get a hockey team here. Baseball is a long shot, football even longer. The NBA bores me and that seems to be the only one even remotely having overtures made toward. There other reasons too (public transit, entertainment tours the skip over this city, the miserable summers here, to name a few).


Sorry to here that, but we lack the size to support such sports.
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Re: Trader Joe's in Louisville

by Chris M » Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:47 pm

MikeG wrote:
Bill R wrote:
MikeG wrote: And yes Louisville is sorely lacking a pro sports team, I'm tired of having to drive hours away to see my favorite teams. It's high on the list of reasons I'm relocating.



Really?


Yes really. We'll never get a hockey team here. Baseball is a long shot, football even longer. The NBA bores me and that seems to be the only one even remotely having overtures made toward. There other reasons too (public transit, entertainment tours the skip over this city, the miserable summers here, to name a few).


If those things are important to you, then you have clearly chosen the wrong location to live. Leaving is a really good idea for you. Most are things that will not change. The climate is what it is. I'm pretty sure there is nothing the community can do about that. However, since the new arena has opened, entertainment tours have not been skipping Louisville. The problem there was lack of available dates for them to play, not lack of interest in playing here. Freedom Hall was booked pretty much 24x7, and it still is, which is why this idea of an NBA team playing there will never come to pass.

We like college sports. Always have. Instead of rooting for teams from someplace else, try supporting the local teams. We have baseball, football, basketball, soccer, volleyball, swimiming, track and field and many other sports all played at a very high level. I'm sorry that you require your athletes to be paid ridiculous salaries in order to enjoy watching them play. You're missing out.

We also have a thriving local music scene. Instead of longing for the bright shiny lights of some national act, check out any of the hundreds of local bands putting out music much better than anything you'll find on the radio.

Should I go into the local arts? I've lived a lot of places. Few have what Louisville can offer. Are we the best anywhere? No. Do we need to be? No.

What Louisville provides is a sense of community. Pride in itself. A love of simple pleasures. Those of us who grew up here don't care what Indy of Nashville or Tuscon have. We don't have to complete. We have what we need and we enjoy the people we share it with.

If you want a low cost of living, low risk of being the victim of a crime, friendly people, good job opportunities, a thriving local food, arts and sports scene, and a strong sense of who you are and what makes you special... then Louisville is the place for you. If you need someone else to tell you what to enjoy, need to keep up with the latest whatever, or just spend more of your time worrying about what you don't have then enjoying what you do have... then, once again, you picked the wrong place to be.

Louisville is perfect just like it is. We don't need the NBA (or NFL, or MLB or NHL) to approve.

Well, maybe J. Bruce Miller does. The rest of us not so much.
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Re: Trader Joe's in Louisville

by Rob Coffey » Sat Jan 22, 2011 2:03 pm

MikeG wrote:
Bill R wrote:
MikeG wrote: And yes Louisville is sorely lacking a pro sports team, I'm tired of having to drive hours away to see my favorite teams. It's high on the list of reasons I'm relocating.



Really?


Yes really. We'll never get a hockey team here. Baseball is a long shot, football even longer. The NBA bores me and that seems to be the only one even remotely having overtures made toward. There other reasons too (public transit, entertainment tours the skip over this city, the miserable summers here, to name a few).


We have had professional hockey before (it left for good reason). We have a pro baseball team, so its not even remotely a long shot, its a given. And, on a very cynical note, we already have a pro basketball team.
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Re: Trader Joe's in Louisville

by Bill R » Sat Jan 22, 2011 2:57 pm

After the prolonged drama over TJ's, I find myself not caring if it comes or not.
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Re: Trader Joe's in Louisville

by BevP » Sat Jan 22, 2011 3:38 pm

Chris...you said it well...very well...Thank You
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Re: Trader Joe's in Louisville

by Mark R. » Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:15 pm

Rob Coffey wrote:We have had professional hockey before (it left for good reason).

Actually when we had the River Frogs as our hockey team they did quite well (they played in Broadbend arena) when we tried to move up to the next level with the Panthers who played in Freedom hall we fell flat on our face. A big reason for this was a much higher expenses associated with that level of play and the venue. If we had stayed where we were we would still have a hockey team!
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Re: Trader Joe's in Louisville

by Brian Curl » Sat Jan 22, 2011 4:52 pm

Chris M wrote exactly what a lot of us were thinking that love Louisville and living here. Applause :!:
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Re: Trader Joe's in Louisville

by James Natsis » Sat Jan 22, 2011 5:16 pm

Well stated Chris. It reminds me of the song "My Way" but in this case "Our Way!" I'm not originally from here (born and reared in St. Louis), and I've traveled and lived in many places. There is a time and place for everything. I've found (along with my wife) Louisville to be at par with the pace of life, entertainment offerings, cost of living, etc. that satisfy my needs. And this city is on an upward trajectory!
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