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Re: Wearing at hat while dining

by GaryF » Sun Mar 01, 2009 1:57 am

Oh- my. I missed a whole page of stuff! Everyone is so serious!!! About hats!!!!

I would love to be part of a Mad Hatter Party off line whether the hats are on heads or placed discretely on the side.

I have hats from all over the world, should I wear my woolen dunce cap from Russia or my starched lace bonnet from Holland?
What would be a fun venue for this outing? Lynn's seems too predicable.

I can hardly wait.
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Re: Wearing at hat while dining

by Eric McKendrick » Sun Mar 01, 2009 4:31 am

Can someone explain why it is NEVER ok to wear a hat inside, besides "someone told me not to".
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Re: Wearing at hat while dining

by John Greenup » Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:12 am

Eric McKendrick wrote:Can someone explain why it is NEVER ok to wear a hat inside, besides "someone told me not to".


It isn't considered forbidden to wear a hat indoors, and in some circumstances (e.g., public places, like a shopping mall, airport or train terminal, building lobby) it's completely acceptable....most societies (including ours) generally frown on men wearing hats inside a restaurant or a home because it's regarded as a sign of disrespect....I've read that the tradition reaches back to Medieval periods, when many hats and helmets then (as now) were a means of protection, and to remove one's hat was a demonstration of respect and friendship....that's as close as I can come.
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Re: Wearing at hat while dining

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Re: Wearing at hat while dining

by Mark R. » Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:44 am

John Greenup wrote:....and to remove one's hat was a demonstration of respect and friendship....that's as close as I can come.

And since everyone here are great friends we need to take off our hats when eating together in restaurants!
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Re: Wearing at hat while dining

by Gayle DeM » Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:45 am

Thank you, Mark. :D
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Re: Wearing at hat while dining

by Anthony U » Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:48 am

We were at Jeff Ruby's Friday night, and there was a guy across from us wearing a hat. He looked like a real tool. :roll:
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Re: Wearing at hat while dining

by Sue H » Sun Mar 01, 2009 10:25 am

We were at Jeff Ruby's Friday night, and there was a guy across from us wearing a hat. He looked like a real tool.


Oh my wearing a hat AND at a chain, that guy should have been tarred, feathered and hung to dry!
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Re: Wearing at hat while dining

by John Hagan » Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:02 am

Im surprised the Drugstore Cowboy reference has not been brought up. "Dont put the hat on the bed"
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Re: Wearing at hat while dining

by Deb Hall » Sun Mar 01, 2009 2:59 pm

AlisonU wrote:I was told long ago that the origin of may manner/ettiquite norms stems from the desire to make others around you feel at ease- introductions,pleasantries,eating with your mouth closed, wearing shoes to cover your nasty feet,ect. So a hat in a restaurant wouldn't offend me- but if you are wearing it in a church, concert, ect. indoors it would be rude because it would be obstructing people's view.


Are you all saying it's bad manners for ladies to wear a hat ( even a small one) in church during the day? I grew up Catholic in California, and it was considered appropriate ( and actually a sign of respect) to wear a hat - and gloves- to church. We kids only did it for holiday services- specifically Easter was always the time to go buy a new outfit with hat and gloves to wear to Easter Sunday Mass. My very conservative grandmother, however, wore her little pill box hats and gloves to church every Sunday. Is there an exception for churches or maybe certain religions? I can't imagine my very proper grandmother getting it wrong...

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Re: Wearing at hat while dining

by Deb Hall » Sun Mar 01, 2009 3:01 pm

GaryF wrote:Oh- my. I missed a whole page of stuff! Everyone is so serious!!! About hats!!!!

I would love to be part of a Mad Hatter Party off line whether the hats are on heads or placed discretely on the side.

I have hats from all over the world, should I wear my woolen dunce cap from Russia or my starched lace bonnet from Holland?
What would be a fun venue for this outing? Lynn's seems too predicable.

I can hardly wait.


Gary,

I will pay money to see you in your starched lace bonnet! :lol:

Deb
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Re: Wearing at hat while dining

by Mark R. » Sun Mar 01, 2009 3:39 pm

Sue H wrote:
We were at Jeff Ruby's Friday night, and there was a guy across from us wearing a hat. He looked like a real tool.


Oh my wearing a hat AND at a chain, that guy should have been tarred, feathered and hung to dry!

Not that it matters but I don't think Jeff Ruby's can actually be considered a chain. Yes there are multiple restaurants but each has its own menu and atmosphere so they don't act or behave like a chain. Kind of like Tony Boombazz locally. I am glad you felt the guy look like a fool which I'm sure he did.
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Re: Wearing at hat while dining

by GaryF » Sun Mar 01, 2009 4:23 pm

Deb Hall wrote:
AlisonU wrote:I was told long ago that the origin of may manner/ettiquite norms stems from the desire to make others around you feel at ease- introductions,pleasantries,eating with your mouth closed, wearing shoes to cover your nasty feet,ect. So a hat in a restaurant wouldn't offend me- but if you are wearing it in a church, concert, ect. indoors it would be rude because it would be obstructing people's view.


Are you all saying it's bad manners for ladies to wear a hat ( even a small one) in church during the day? I grew up Catholic in California, and it was considered appropriate ( and actually a sign of respect) to wear a hat - and gloves- to church. We kids only did it for holiday services- specifically Easter was always the time to go buy a new outfit with hat and gloves to wear to Easter Sunday Mass. My very conservative grandmother, however, wore her little pill box hats and gloves to church every Sunday. Is there an exception for curches or maybe certain religions? I can't imagine my very proper grandmother getting it wrong...

Deb


According to Miss Manners which I pulled out last night thanks to Leah's post ladies wear hats as a sign of respect whereas men remove theirs to show the same respect. Ladies- get out your Easter Bonnets! :)
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Re: Wearing at hat while dining

by C. Devlin » Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:06 pm

I actually do think there's a difference between very small, decorative women's hat such as Leah mentions and bigger hats, either men's or women's. I also dislike the habit a lot of men have of wearing cowboy hats when dancing. I understand it's part of the whole cowboy/country dancing schtick (and it's also part of the costume in country dancing competition), but I really dislike the look. And I've also had the unpleasant experience of dancing with men who wear them and sometimes end up banging the brim against me, or even having the thing drop in my face. Just take the darned thing off to dance.

On the other hand, this is great fun to watch (not country, but West Coast Swing, a Jack & Jill competition, totally improvised):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkcHzqr8 ... re=related

...and which reminded me of Twyla Tharp's "Push Comes to Shove" with Mikhail Baryshnikov:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mio_pT5rZX0
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Re: Wearing at hat while dining

by GaryF » Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:47 pm

Deb Hall wrote:
GaryF wrote:Oh- my. I missed a whole page of stuff! Everyone is so serious!!! About hats!!!!

I would love to be part of a Mad Hatter Party off line whether the hats are on heads or placed discretely on the side.

I have hats from all over the world, should I wear my woolen dunce cap from Russia or my starched lace bonnet from Holland?
What would be a fun venue for this outing? Lynn's seems too predicable.

I can hardly wait.


Gary,

I will pay money to see you in your starched lace bonnet! :lol:

Deb


For the full effect I must iron my drindl.
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