CNN v Fox News

IMHO, there is not a television news network that is as far left as Fox is to the far right. No, MSNBC or CNN is not the antithesis to Faux News.

Anyway, TVs belong in establishments that lack in quality of product and/or service.

2 Points. 1) What is the point in having a tv if the sound is always off and you are playing nice music all the time? Frankly, I avoid restaurants with tv's. Perhaps this customer was over the top, but Fox News sets a nice ambience only for those dining in bunkers with the rest of their militia buddies.

2) To address the poster who said that it takes two to tango, as if Rush Limbaugh up to the present day GOP noise/propaganda machine are not the epitome of playing dirty, cheap, and ugly. These are people who politicize everything. It doesn't take two to tango when typically the right wingers throw mud and the left just takes it. That has been starting to change over the last few years, but it is still nowhere near proportionately similar. And...comparing Rachel Maddow to Beck/Hannity is ridiculous. She's smart, well spoken, thoughtful, and pretty well the opposite of everything that they are conduct-wise.

Well, we know where you lie. Ya know, if you can only recognize the right-wing nut jobs and can't recognize the left wing nut jobs...

Stephen is right. Rachel Maddow has that same irrational smugness that Hannity and Beck do. The same presumption that the viewers will automatically agree with what they say, if they say it emphatically enough. It's just more propaganda nonsense.

I just wonder why the real hatemongers like Ann Coulter and Laura Ingraham don't get more criticism.





I also like food.

I'm less concerned w/ "smugness" & more concerned w/ "dangerous".

I was in a hospital waiting room recently and it was playing. I refused to sit inside the waiting room and wandered the halls. Fox News is that obnoxious.

I'm honestly more shocked by the fact that someone that owns a business would think that it's a good idea to have Fox News on in said business, knowing that it's so controversial & offensive to so many people, than I am that someone complained about it. You may love Fox News & you may think that Glenn Beck is Christ resurrected but there's no denying the fact that this channel represents something very negative for a lot of people (regardless of whether or not those feelings have any validity). You'd be smart to avoid the other side of the spectrum as well (e.g: MSNBC). There's a reason that these channels are on cable news. I would suggest doing a little research (statistics on this subject are available via the web) & changing to something more neutral.

I was in a doctor's office that was playing the 700 Club on the day when Pat Robertson made his controversial claims about Haiti. I can't fathom how a business owner could possibly think that this program being on could be a good idea. The same show was on the next 2 times I was in there as well. The girls behind the desk were flaunting their religion & actually discussing the show on one of these occasions. The customer should never be put in a position where they have to that they're offended by something that's so obviously offensive to so many people.

...& to those of you that would just shrug your shoulders at this customer's complaint as if he should just get over it...that's really stupid from a business standpoint. You have absolutely no idea who this person is, who he knows & how far he'll take his criticism. I've seen some pretty nasty restaurant bashing via the net & in social gatherings & if you think that people don't read that stuff, you're naive at best.

I completely agree, and I would add that for every customer who complains loudly about something like this, there are likely a bunch of other customers quietly grumbling about it and deciding never to return.

Anyway, TVs belong in establishments that lack in quality of product and/or service.

Hold up. I strongly oppose that opinion. You're implying simply because any restaurant has a television they lack quality product or service? That's just absurd.

Rachel Maddow has that same irrational smugness that Hannity and Beck do. The same presumption that the viewers will automatically agree with what they say, if they say it emphatically enough. It's just more propaganda nonsense.

I find this astonishing. Maddow is confident about what she thinks, but she is unfailingly polite, incredibly bright, admits when she is wrong, and works hard at finding guests with opposing views. You may not like her approach, but I don't see her as having anything in common with Beck or Hannity. Olbermann is far more smug than Maddow. She can be snarky in her more light-hearted "culture" segments, but usually plays real issues pretty straight.

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Hold up. I strongly oppose that opinion. You're implying simply because any restaurant has a television they lack quality product or service? That's just absurd.

Well, let's look at the record. After its remake, Equus & Jack's has televisions all over. Volare has televisions, only at the bar, but they can be seen from much of the dining room. It's easy to demonstrate the absurdity of this remark if it's taken as a generalization.

That being said, though, generally televisions in the dining area signal a more casual dining room, while most of the "fancy" places around town don't have 'em.

Anyway, TVs belong in establishments that lack in quality of product and/or service.

Hold up. I strongly oppose that opinion. You're implying simply because any restaurant has a television they lack quality product or service? That's just absurd.

No. I didn't say or even imply that "any" or all restaurants that have TV's lack in quality of product and/or service. I just don't like going to restaurants with TV's because they are a distraction from enjoying the food or libations. If I am eating at a higher quality restaurant that I like and they have TV's, I realize that I have to just put up with them if I want to continue to eat there.

In my opinion, TV's belong in restaurants of lesser quality or in sports bars. Personally, I don't mind not getting lost in the taste of onion rings from some sports bar. However, I have to tune out (no pun intended) the TV's at, i.e. Sapporo, because I like to get lost in a bite of good fish.

Rachel Maddow has that same irrational smugness that Hannity and Beck do. The same presumption that the viewers will automatically agree with what they say, if they say it emphatically enough. It's just more propaganda nonsense.

I find this astonishing. Maddow is confident about what she thinks, but she is unfailingly polite, incredibly bright, admits when she is wrong, and works hard at finding guests with opposing views. You may not like her approach, but I don't see her as having anything in common with Beck or Hannity. Olbermann is far more smug than Maddow. She can be snarky in her more light-hearted "culture" segments, but usually plays real issues pretty straight.

While I will say that Beck and Hannity are soulless pieces of s**t and Maddow is not, their approach to "news" isn't so far off. The way they present stories and ideas are totally slanted towards their own political views. Their inflection, physical mannerisms and faked incredulation plant seeds into the minds of the ignorant. News cannot be called news where the spin is obvious.

... and you're right about Olbermann, but he's already shown his hand. The rest are still holding on to their perceived credibility <cough, cough>.

Re: FOX News being "fair and balanced" as their motto says, check out the documentary "The Corporation". A part of it is spent discussing a very disturbing battle between Monsanto, BGH, FOX News and two investigative reporters in the state of Florida. It short it says that FOX News bows to advertisers when it comes to deciding what news the public hears. This isn't limited to FOX News but is SOP for all of Rupert Murdocks media outlets.(something like 175 newspapers, 35 TV stations) FOX News isn't fair and balanced. I do think that's why so many people like it- it tells them only what they want to hear.

I completely agree, and I would add that for every customer who complains loudly about something like this, there are likely a bunch of other customers quietly grumbling about it and deciding never to return.

Hear hear. I went to the Tony BoomBazz TapHouse on Bardstown Rd. shortly after they opened. They have about a bazillion tvs in there and every one of them was tuned to Fox News. The sound was off but every time I looked up there was Bill O'Reilly's ugly face staring down at me like Big Brother. I was seated at a table full of lefties, and everyone was unhappy about it but no one wanted to call attention to themselves by asking to have the channel changed. The incident stayed in my mind and I wasn't too enthusiastic about going back but I got talked into it and was pleasantly surprised to find that the tvs were all playing ESPN. I'm glad I went because it's now one of my favorite places (but it'd be even better if they just got rid of the tvs altogether.)

The fam had an excellent, as always, lunch there yesterday. TV is now on The Food Network, crisis resolved people.

since when did personal politics become so nasty?

Fox News has been a leader in the movement--that's part of the problem.

The Election of 1800 is looking around very confused, wondering what this fox news is.