Owner of Campbell's Cottage arrested

You will have to excuse me if I don't share the love. As a former firefighter who literally watched my brother-in-law be ingulfed in a blaze of flames on 9-11 and more recently lost a close friend to a fire in KY.

Robin procliaming her innocent is ridiculous.

She purposely set a fire.

How many mothers and fathers risked losing their son or daughter to fight the fire? How many sons and daughters risked losing their mom or dad because they were fighting a fire she set?

You'll have to forgive my if I don't give a shit that she was one of you, part of your family and posted about food on your forum. I believe anyone who is an arsonist is no better than someone who attempts murder as they but the lives of firefighters at risk.

I hope she burns in hell. Yes, I know I'll probabaly be banned and/or have this post deleted. Though, Robin you need to realize if you allow politcal or social-type discussions, the debate will get more heated than "Who has the best Pad Thai" type discussions.

NO, Dylan, you will be a man who debates what he believes in!

YEAH! Some Huevos! What I'm talkin bout...

Let's get at it (remember- we got to go have a beer afterwards! It is the ancient custom and you can't diss the elders!)

So...

Here's my point:

Neither of us knows, truthfully, whether she did it or not. Were you there? Me neither.The point being... this is a woman who has served the community for years. She deserves her appeal.

By the way... give me a break on the whole 'Flashback' storyline. I hold Firefighters in the highest esteem, along with teachers, judges and pediatric surgeons (it takes a special breed to wear that burden, doesn't it?) Yet- you signed up for the job, dummy! Sooner or later you have to know you will have to run into a burning building. That's the job, it would seem to me that the pros would have been relishing in the storytelling. All heros enjoy singing the glory of thier own accomplishment: see 'Beowulf,' now go to the locker-room. Yeah, I'm pretty much right on this, as I was raised in this class...

OK, let me taunt you now:

'Boo-hoo' I'm a person paid to fight fires that tries to convice the community that I am too good to fight fires.'

Buck-up, man. I got some leather, close-by. As long as you don't mind the aged spittle- you can borrow it- cause I dont mind the spit.

Let's walk together, although I know I just board-checked you. C'mon give it right back to me! Let's just walk out of this conversation as friends, singing of our past loves in half-drunken tone!

/poke

/please!

I think you are beast for your boldness in your post. Today,when you read back on your thoughts- don't you dare draw flacid on me. Man, you have the ammo to beat my arse here- use this.

I find it funny that I also have the same amount of ammo. Get at it man, is all I have...

And we will!

(bites his leather)

[Robin Garr]

"J", not to worry. You have a right to speak. No need to be defensive about it.

One course correction, though:

Robin procliaming her innocent is ridiculous.

I didn't say that. Look at the OP again.

She purposely set a fire.

And you, sir (or madam), do not know that.

As for all the rest, you have a right to say what you think. You don't have to fear deletion at my hand.

And that's why I love you , Robin.

I think we grow, as a community, when we find common ground. But we grow even more when our differences are even more... well... different.

It's a beautiful thing, this dynamic. This melting pot.

I came on thinking I should round out my argument. Looking back over it- nah, it's cool. Nonetheless, this was my new way of putting my perspective:

Plato described 'classes' of people in his philosophies. There were the merchants, the nobles and, yes, the warriors. This warrior class shouldn't just be seen as simply soldiers, I think. I consider firefighters part of this broader (of my own design) group. They put life on the line to protect others- that's a warrior to me. And it deserves the respect that one should pay to a veteran. Bow to these people, for they someday may carry you and yours through the flames. A strong sentiment, yet so very true.

I consider myself part of this strata, for reasons I shouldn't get into here- because I am already too good at finding a tangent and ruining a good thought. So, I get an icky feeling when a warrior begins playing the 'woe is me' card. That's not what we do! We revel in the war story- in singing of our own glory to our friends...

'I am Beowulf!'

hehe

If this is all the proof they had, the jury is crazy.

The prosecution presented for almost two weeks; the defense presented for approximately one day.

The report said that ATF and Arson investigators testified that she used cardboard and packing peanuts to fuel the fire.

It is my understanding that the prosecution also presented testimony that there was an accelerant present.

It appears that the jurors may have taken her lack of prior convictions into consideration when they recommended a sentence. They recommended the minimum possible sentence for each of the charges for an aggregate of 12 years. The other thread states that she has been sentenced to 22 years. I don’t believe this is correct; it is my understanding that a sentencing hearing has not yet been held.

If she truly is innocent, I hope that she prevails on her appeal. However, it is not the role of the appellate court to determine guilt or innocence. I believe this is a common misconception. That Court’s role is only to ascertain whether or not an error occurred at the trial court level that would warrant reversing or vacating the judgment.

If this is all the proof they had, the jury is crazy.

The prosecution presented for almost two weeks; the defense presented for approximately one day.

I'm talking in regards to who set the fire. A 4-second flash of a red SUV just doesn't cut it for me. What was the proof that she set the fire and not someone else?

Yeah, so here is the deal.

I do not know Susan. I'm not making an effort to delve into this story since it's already biased from multiple angles of guilt or innocence. My HOPE being truth finally show itself; whatever the verdict. Good luck to persons defending Susan's character and those willing to stand behind their own opinions of said case. I feel personal bias will prevent some from ever believing the real truths. And, of course , no one knows them at this time.

Pardon me, I have to leave to go be shamed for not sticking up for a person I have no personal relations.

[Robin Garr]

Pardon me, I have to leave to go be shamed for not sticking up for a person I have no personal relations.

You were doing fine up til that point, Kyle. But nobody here's going to shame you for that. We might shame you, however, for assuming a lack of civility on the part of your peers here without justification.

Pardon me, I have to leave to go be shamed for not sticking up for a person I have no personal relations.

You were doing fine up til that point, Kyle. But nobody here's going to shame you for that. We might shame you, however, for assuming a lack of civility on the part of your peers here without justification.

Except that Stephen said:

Love this person, know her well, and will walk with her- as you should.

Shame to you if you don't.

[Robin Garr]

Except that Stephen said:

You gotta admire Stephen's passion, but I'm sure he would be the first to agree with me that his outbursts don't represent forum policy.

If this is all the proof they had, the jury is crazy.

The prosecution presented for almost two weeks; the defense presented for approximately one day.

I'm talking in regards to who set the fire. A 4-second flash of a red SUV just doesn't cut it for me. What was the proof that she set the fire and not someone else?

There was much other evidence presented. From what we shown in the media the conversation that was overheard by a witness certainly hurt as did the fact she had recently raised insurance coverage. Obviously there was much other evidence presented that was not shown in the media. I firmly believe the jury was fair in their verdict based on the information they were given. That's the American legal system, no matter what people not involved think of the accused.

You gotta admire Stephen's passion, but I'm sure he would be the first to agree with me that his outbursts don't represent forum policy.

I've no problem with Steven's passion; it's rare to find an intelligent individual committed these days that will speak their mind .Commendable? Without a doubt.

I simply felt there was justification for rebuttal; even though he may not have been speaking for everyone.

It just kinda irked me. That's all. No worries.

By the by, I've heard reports she has requested another trial or appeal? I'm a little cloudy on this one. Would someone be able to fill in the blanks?