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Re: How well do restaurant patios and smoking coexist?

by RonnieD » Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:21 pm

I'm sorry if the radiation that my uranium is giving off causes anyone any discomfort. The fact is, you just don't like radiation, it has nothing to do with cell mutation and cancer. But I love uranium, so I'm going to carry it everywhere I go and you have to like it. :roll: (see, I've got a whole bag of eye rolls over here)
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Re: How well do restaurant patios and smoking coexist?

by Gary Z » Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:17 pm

Being a uranium enthusiast myself, I was perfectly content to restrict myself to venues where the radiologically like minded could gather and communally irradiate themselves.

I'd prefer not to eat my yellow cake in freezing temperatures and rain but it's what we've been left with. And until that's banned, I suggest you just buy a geiger counter.
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Re: How well do restaurant patios and smoking coexist?

by Charles W. » Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:20 pm

Gary Z wrote:your prevailing desire is to see the world adapt to your needs. Congratulations, you're a true American!


Irony is dead.
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Re: How well do restaurant patios and smoking coexist?

by Robin Garr » Thu Jun 26, 2014 9:34 pm

Charles W. wrote:
Gary Z wrote:your prevailing desire is to see the world adapt to your needs. Congratulations, you're a true American!


Irony is dead.

I thought irony was a hipster trademark now. :P
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Re: How well do restaurant patios and smoking coexist?

by Gary Z » Thu Jun 26, 2014 11:31 pm

Robin Garr wrote:
Charles W. wrote:
Gary Z wrote:your prevailing desire is to see the world adapt to your needs. Congratulations, you're a true American!


Irony is dead.

I thought irony was a hipster trademark now. :P


Ugh. I was happier being called a troll.
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Re: How well do restaurant patios and smoking coexist?

by Steve H » Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:09 am

Charles W. wrote:
Gary Z wrote:your prevailing desire is to see the world adapt to your needs. Congratulations, you're a true American!


Irony is dead.


Gary is not allowed to visit a bar or restaurant that allows smoking, as they have been made illegal to accommodate we nonsmokers. Maybe we should grant him some leeway for feeling frustrated.
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Re: How well do restaurant patios and smoking coexist?

by Adriel Gray » Fri Jun 27, 2014 12:06 pm

"Just don't go out in public." Is not an argument for coexisting. It isn't even an argument for society, let a lone a free society.

So why can't people be responsible for not going to places they hate? If you hate what other people do in public or in private businesses why can't YOU stay home? We are talking about voluntary relationships between private business owners who want a smoking patio for their clientele. This is clearly an AB conversation... I'm trying to help you C your way out. If we were to use the logic put forth in previous posts I would just ask why you hate cigarettes in private? But that's not me, I'd rather you lived with me than against me. Could you find a patio you do like, and not try to conquer those you don't?

To insist on legislative intervention that forces voluntary relationships to be terminated because of preference of certain individuals is weird to me, and weirder still that those living in a society who could also have their voluntary relationships revoked by the same kind of laws is down right creepy. What if we were talking about your ability to buy alcohol? It's happened before... What about your ability to buy recreational drugs... oh wait... too late. What about who you can marry? Oh wait... depends on the state... Man this slope is neither slippery nor a slope, these are real world examples!

Let's pass a law where Wal-Mart can't sell my mom anymore crappy Hallmark cards. I hate getting those damn things!! :x
I would also like to make the sale of those purses you put pets in illegal. I don't care who wants to do it, it's wrong. :x

To use a truly progressive slogan, an injury to one, is an injury to all I want all of you to pursue life in the manner of your choosing and I will support you as best I can in that endeavour, I would just like the same respect.
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Re: How well do restaurant patios and smoking coexist?

by RonnieD » Fri Jun 27, 2014 2:28 pm

I agree, Adriel, it's getting to where you can't even murder a guy anymore without the police being all up in your business.
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Re: How well do restaurant patios and smoking coexist?

by Carla G » Fri Jun 27, 2014 3:26 pm

RonnieD wrote:I agree, Adriel, it's getting to where you can't even murder a guy anymore without the police being all up in your business.


Boy you got that right Ronnie and those"sniveling" crime victims too!
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by RonnieD » Fri Jun 27, 2014 3:32 pm

Listen, it's not so much that being subjected to murder is harmful to them, they just don't like being murdered. If they didn't want to be murdered then they shouldn't go to places where I am because I'm not going to stop murdering just because someone doesn't like being murdered.

You can't expect people to curb their dangerous and irresponsible behavior just because you don't like it. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have some reckless driving to do near a school. That's still legal, right?
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Re: How well do restaurant patios and smoking coexist?

by Carla G » Fri Jun 27, 2014 3:33 pm

BTW, just got back from lunch with two of my boys, one 3 year old and one 5 year old. The restaurant manager approached me before leaving thanking me for my well behave kids and gave me a coupon for a fee appetizer or dessert. Said we were welcome back anytime. Just wondering if you ever got such a coupon? You know..."hey! We'd like to thank you for fouling up the air for everybody. Oh and pats on the back for such irresponsibility for your own health! You duh man!" You know , seems fair.
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Re: How well do restaurant patios and smoking coexist?

by Steve H » Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:11 pm

Are you two really saying second hand smoke is like murder? Seriously.
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Re: How well do restaurant patios and smoking coexist?

by Charles W. » Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:15 pm

That's the way analogies work. You are making an absolute comparison, so every characteristic of the one is identical to the characteristics of the other--no exaggerations, no differences.
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Re: How well do restaurant patios and smoking coexist?

by Robin Garr » Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:15 pm

Charles W. wrote:That's the way analogies work.

It is also the way satire works. :mrgreen:
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Re: How well do restaurant patios and smoking coexist?

by Steve H » Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:24 pm

Robin Garr wrote:
Charles W. wrote:That's the way analogies work.

It is also the way satire works. :mrgreen:

C.S. Lewis this ain't.
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