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Re: Louisville's timeless classics: What are they?

by Carla G » Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:03 pm

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Carla G wrote:For fish I think The Fish House needs a nod. The restaurant itself may not have been there for 10 years but it's owner has his roots in the original Burger Queen

Interesting. Where was the original Burger Queen? Is it a Diary Queen now?


Carla G wrote:( which DID make its own tarter sauce)

Just be clear, Mike Linnig's has it's own tarter sauce. It's is made to their recipe.

How is that inferior to tartar sauce made on site with Sysco mayo, Sysco pickles, and Sysco spices? I'm probably just to obtuse to understand.


Original BQ was in Middletown (not the location that is a DQ now but rather, across the stree at what is now a hardware store or something.)

And as far as the tartar sauce goes, don't know that it is better, but at least original and not the same sauce that's put out at dozens of other restaurants. And maybe with fewer preservatives. Maybe.
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Re: Louisville's timeless classics: What are they?

by Steve H » Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:04 pm

Robin Garr wrote:I could probably make a strong case that fried fish sandwiches are a newsworthy, man-bites-dog iconic food for Louisville because we are at least 700 miles from the nearest open water. We really shouldn't be eating so much fish, but our 19th century German, Irish and Italian Catholic immigrant base set us on this path when our more rural neighbors were eating catfish.



This isn't the article that I remember but it'll do until I find it!
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Re: Louisville's timeless classics: What are they?

by Steve H » Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:06 pm

Carla G wrote:Original BQ was in Middletown (not the location that is a DQ now but rather, across the stree at what is now a hardware store or something.)


Thanks Carla!
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Re: Louisville's timeless classics: What are they?

by Richard Whitaker » Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:19 pm

I've been gone too long to nominate restaurants. The regional classic dish (besides the hot brown, Derby pie and fried fish on rye) that immediately leaps to mind is a Benedictine Sandwich. You don't have to get very far from Louisville before mentioning Benedictine gets you a blank stare or a liqueur!

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Sysco, much like it's competitors, sells food that ranges widely in quality and for it's house brands will even color code them from worst to best. :D Seriously though, I personally would never use them for some things (Fresh Produce for example), but buy commodity items, compostable sugarcane based to-go boxes and a fair number of higher end imports from them if the price is right.
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Re: Louisville's timeless classics: What are they?

by Robin Garr » Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:20 pm

Steve H wrote:This isn't the article that I remember but it'll do until I find it!

Oh, yeah. I edited that story. :mrgreen:
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Re: Louisville's timeless classics: What are they?

by Steve H » Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:24 pm

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Steve H wrote:This isn't the article that I remember but it'll do until I find it!

Oh, yeah. I edited that story. :mrgreen:


See, you've got a huge head start on your submission then!
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Re: Louisville's timeless classics: What are they?

by Robin Garr » Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:06 pm

Steve H wrote:See, you've got a huge head start on your submission then!
:lol:

Without going into a lot of detail, it was a horrendous job. I'd just as soon not remember it ...
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Re: Louisville's timeless classics: What are they?

by Antonia L » Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:04 pm

Richard Whitaker wrote:I've been gone too long to nominate restaurants. The regional classic dish (besides the hot brown, Derby pie and fried fish on rye) that immediately leaps to mind is a Benedictine Sandwich. You don't have to get very far from Louisville before mentioning Benedictine gets you a blank stare or a liqueur!


You're onto something there. Who makes the best b&b (Benedictine and bacon sandwich)? My old favorites were at La Peche and The Colonnade.
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Re: Louisville's timeless classics: What are they?

by Antonia L » Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:06 pm

Carla G wrote:For fish I think The Fish House needs a nod. The restaurant itself may not have been there for 10 years but it's owner has his roots in the original Burger Queen ( which DID make its own tarter sauce) and before that The Ranch House. That goes back 40 years at least.


The Fish House has definitely been around for well over ten years. And his jalapeño tartar sauce is the jam.
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Re: Louisville's timeless classics: What are they?

by Marsha L. » Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:30 pm

Antonia L wrote:
Richard Whitaker wrote:I've been gone too long to nominate restaurants. The regional classic dish (besides the hot brown, Derby pie and fried fish on rye) that immediately leaps to mind is a Benedictine Sandwich. You don't have to get very far from Louisville before mentioning Benedictine gets you a blank stare or a liqueur!


You're onto something there. Who makes the best b&b (Benedictine and bacon sandwich)? My old favorites were at La Peche and The Colonnade.


Does anyone remember the short-lived chain, "Fresher Cooker" (one store was where Skyline is now in Mid City Mall parking lot). They had a great B&B, with alfalfa sprouts, in the 80's.

The "Queen Anne" B&B at The Cafe on Brent street is a great example. I actually think (of course, all chefs do) my benedictine is the bomb. NO FOOD COLORING! (although, I will admit, as a caterer, people don't really seem to recognize benedictine unless it's colored green). Jennie Benedict, the Louisville caterer who created the spread, did include two drops of green food coloring in her recipe.
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Re: Louisville's timeless classics: What are they?

by Lois Mauk » Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:32 pm

I remember reading somewhere that Louisville residents eat more fried cod, per capita, than anywhere else in the country. Anyone else recall seeing that?
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Re: Louisville's timeless classics: What are they?

by Lois Mauk » Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:34 pm

Found something at
http://www.frontdoor.com/city-guide/lou ... louisville:

Written by Robin Garr for FrontDoor.com | Published: 2/24/2009

Local Life and Lore in Louisville

Locals love to eat fried whitefish sandwiches, historically cod on rye with tartar sauce. According to some statistics, Louisvillians eat more cod per capita than residents of any other city in the U.S. Theories abound as to why this city 700 miles from any seashore should be so partial to fish. The prevailing story is that Louisville's large Catholic population created a burgeoning fish-supply industry by abstaining from red meat on Fridays during Lent. In the early 20th century, more than one-third of the city's residents were Catholic.

"Louisville's fish and cod consumption is a phenomenon that has puzzled me and others in the fish business for as long as I've been in it," Mark Kotok, of Arctic Fisheries of Buffalo, N.Y., told Louisville Magazine a few years ago. "There are no statistics, but for an inland city -- a city not served by coastal waters -- in my 40 years of experience, I don't know of another geographic area that consumes as much cod."

There are dozens of local fish-sandwich eateries: Moby Dick is the big local chain, with 18 locations in the Metro area, including those in the Butchertown neighborhood (1500 Mellwood Ave.), St. Matthews (4848 Shelbyville Road) and Middletown (12012 Shelbyville Road). Another famous establishment, Mike Linnig's, started in 1925. Its picnic-like grounds draw summer crowds to the Southwest end of the city (9308 Cane Run Road, 502-937-9888), Other favorites include Stan's Fish Sandwich (3723 Lexington Road, 502-896-6600); its near neighbor, The Fishery (3624 Lexington Road, 502-895-1188) and The Fish House (2993 Winter Ave., 502-568-2993).



See also "A LOUISVILLE Fish STORY", by Ken Snyder, March 2003, Louisville Magazine:
http://web.ebscohost.com/ehost/detail?s ... AN=9473202
So why hasn't the fish sandwich been recognized as a Louisville signature meal, like the cheesesteak sandwich is in Philadelphia or the deep-dish pizza is in Chicago? Perhaps it's because the habit, taste and preference for the tons of fish sandwiches we eat is too embedded in our behavior to be noticed. Out-of-towners may associate us with Kentucky Fried Chicken, but they've never followed us on the fish-fry circuit.

But there may be another explanation for how an inland population 10 hours away from the nearest saltwater — and even farther from cold, cod-teeming waters of the North Atlantic — could become a cod-consumption capital: the exploits of a colorful entrepreneur named Leo Weil. This son of a Cincinnati fishmonger came to Louisville in 1922 to open his own fish business, which became the Fulton Fish Market, and was the first distributor of Icelandic cod in the U.S. His popularization of this sandwich-worthy product earned him the nickname “The Godfather” (see sidebar, page 41).
In the early 1920s, Weil was the first supplier of fish to Mike Linnig in Valley Station. Linnig, who had previously sold only apples, cider and ham sandwiches from his roadside stand, was a trustee of St. Paul's Catholic Church on Dixie Highway. Seeing a way of boosting Friday sales, he added fried fish sandwiches to his menu. The rest, as they say, is history. Today Mike Linnig's (9308 Cane Run Road), which butts up against a levee on the Ohio River and features a large outside eating area, is a far cry from a roadside stand, resembling a crowded parish fish fry as much as a retail establishment, especially on Friday evenings.
From this single restaurant that operates only from late January through October, an astonishing 250,000 pounds of fish fillets are sold in an abbreviated nine-month year. According to Bill Linnig, grandson of Mike and one of an entire crew of Linnig children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren still active at the restaurant, this translates into 8,000–10,000 fish sandwiches a week during peak summer months.
While any tour of Louisville fish sandwich eateries may begin with Mike Linnigs, it certainly doesn't end there. From Linnigs to the River Creek Inn on Upper River Road in eastern Jefferson County and all points in between, there are a multitude of establishments, each with its own method or secret for making what it believes to be the best fried fish sandwich.

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Re: Louisville's timeless classics: What are they?

by Mark Gilley » Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:39 pm

Antonia L wrote:
Carla G wrote:For fish I think The Fish House needs a nod. The restaurant itself may not have been there for 10 years but it's owner has his roots in the original Burger Queen ( which DID make its own tarter sauce) and before that The Ranch House. That goes back 40 years at least.


The Fish House has definitely been around for well over ten years. And his jalapeño tartar sauce is the jam.


I love me some fish house, but from which "green river" did their "green river style" originate? If we are talking local flavors, I don't know if this qualifies as anything more than an import.
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Re: Louisville's timeless classics: What are they?

by Lonnie Turner » Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:09 pm

Richard Whitaker wrote:The regional classic dish... that immediately leaps to mind is a Benedictine Sandwich.


Yes! Good one! That's my go-to choice when we have lunch at Stevens & Stevens Deli.

Marsha L. wrote:Does anyone remember the short-lived chain, "Fresher Cooker" (one store was where Skyline is now in Mid City Mall parking lot). They had a great B&B, with alfalfa sprouts, in the 80's.


I remember that one. They put alfalfa sprouts on a lot of options, seems like, and it made a great cool sandwich choice in hot weather. I was really bummed when they packed it in. It was a straight up fast food place with a healthy vegetarian menu. Maybe too far ahead of its time for the 'ville back then...
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Re: Louisville's timeless classics: What are they?

by Carla G » Tue Aug 28, 2012 9:19 pm

Lonnie Turner wrote:
Richard Whitaker wrote:The regional classic dish... that immediately leaps to mind is a Benedictine Sandwich.


Yes! Good one! That's my go-to choice when we have lunch at Stevens & Stevens Deli.

Marsha L. wrote:Does anyone remember the short-lived chain, "Fresher Cooker" (one store was where Skyline is now in Mid City Mall parking lot). They had a great B&B, with alfalfa sprouts, in the 80's.


I remember that one. They put alfalfa sprouts on a lot of options, seems like, and it made a great cool sandwich choice in hot weather. I was really bummed when they packed it in. It was a straight up fast food place with a healthy vegetarian menu. Maybe too far ahead of its time for the 'ville back then...


Fresher Cooker was our first foray into restaurant investments. Yeah, lost our butts but they were too far ahead of their time. Great Benedictine, bacon and sprout sandwich however.
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