Cause we all need a lil' controversy

Yeah, that's what I thought Steve. I'm busy too but you know what, I make myself accountable for what I say. Roger's piece pointed out that AB is no longer an Amercian owned company yet many people associate it as an American stapel like Ford and Chevy. AB hasn't been anything other than a company that caters to the lowest common demoniator in many decades. It should be viewed as no more than a cola manufacturer.

You, who authors the vaunted 1/2 price wine list, should understand the importance of a supplier who takes pride in ownership of its product. Someone who is accountable to its customers for its product. Do you think that describes AB either before or after Inbev ownership?

I'm not condemning people who like AB products. I'm not condemning people who like the sound from a car radio or enjoy watching movies on a 32" TV. Those people are satisfied with less and to some extent I envy them. Just don't fucking say that the shit that is canned by "domestic" brewers is just as good as the beer brewed by people who's names you know and provided to you by people who's names you know. If you say that then you don't know shit about brewing.

Don't tell me on some level you don't think less of people of who don't recognized the difference. You who author the 1/2 price wine list.

It's very easy to sit behind a keyboard and stroke away.

Shane: Who do you think about when you are sitting behind your keyboard stroking away? I'm guessing Robin or Roger.

I think about how I would like to meet Troy. How about it. Where and when would you like to meet?

[Robin Garr]

It's very easy to sit behind a keyboard and stroke away.

Shane: Who do you think about when you are sitting behind your keyboard stroking away? I'm guessing Robin or Roger.

Troy B Gone?

It's very easy to sit behind a keyboard and stroke away.

Shane: Who do you think about when you are sitting behind your keyboard stroking away? I'm guessing Robin or Roger.

Troy B Gone?

It appears he is not gone.

[Robin Garr]

Troy B Gone?

It appears he is not gone.

I'm not that quick on the trigger, Troy. I'd like you to apologize for that crude post, though. This isn't a CJ story comments section.

Yeah, that's what I thought Steve. I'm busy too but you know what, I make myself accountable for what I say.

Did you really just go there? I will answer every post you care to make on HotBytes. If that's not accountable enough then tough $hit tough guy. I'm not giving up a night with my Sweetie to meet some douche in a bar. Seriously?

Roger's piece pointed out that AB is no longer an Amercian owned company yet many people associate it as an American stapel like Ford and Chevy. AB hasn't been anything other than a company that caters to the lowest common demoniator in many decades. It should be viewed as no more than a cola manufacturer.

Oh, so now you get all verbose again. My posts are just too inane to deal with, but then you start with the verbal diarrhea again. I can feel the controversy flowing now!

BTW, some folks like cola too.

You, who authors the vaunted 1/2 price wine list, should understand the importance of a supplier who takes pride in ownership of its product. Someone who is accountable to its customers for its product. Do you think that describes AB either before or after Inbev ownership?

One reason I took on the Half Price Wine list was because I like cheap wine. I drink more bottles under $10, with many around $6. What can I say? I'm not a snob.

I'm not condemning people who like AB products. I'm not condemning people who like the sound from a car radio or enjoy watching movies on a 32" TV. Those people are satisfied with less and to some extent I envy them. Just don't fucking say that the shit that is canned by "domestic" brewers is just as good as the beer brewed by people who's names you know and provided to you by people who's names you know. If you say that then you don't know shit about brewing.

Some people like the Bud Light. I know many that keep trying micro brews, and they don't like them. It's not ignorance. It's preference. Roger condemns them, and you support that.

Don't tell me on some level you don't think less of people of who don't recognized the difference. You who author the 1/2 price wine list.

I'm trying to tell you what I think, but you're not listening. I do not think less of people who like domestic beer. I just do not. I didn't know that that was a requirement.

Note: Edited in the AM because my Sweetie called me to bed in the PM. Ha!

Yes Steve, I really went there. I was just suggesting that we meet and talk about this if you want me to understand. It is possible that you can make me understand in person. I'm really not getting you in this format. Bring your sweetie, I'm not threatening you in any way!

I'm no kind of elitist. I don't care if people like cheap beer or wine. I assumed that the 1/2 price wine list was good wine at a good price. Was I wrong there? I don't drink wine at all. I don't drink cheaply made beer but I have no problem drinking well-made beer at a cheap price. I'm on record here on this forum as having no interest in over-priced beer.

As far as I can see you haven't actually said what it was that Roger said that was incorrect. Just that it offended you and possibly others who don't read the forum in which he published his opinion. If that is all you are trying to convey then I guess I read you. I just thought you were someone with something interesting to say who would be willing to make the effort to be understood.

If all you got is that I'm too verbose and Roger's opinons offend you then I guess your right, we don't have anything to talk about. I apologise if I offended you. That was not my intention.

. It should be viewed as no more than a cola manufacturer. .

What's wrong with cola. It's better than most wine and a lot of "bad craft" beers.

I'm a Diet Coke kind of guy.

. It should be viewed as no more than a cola manufacturer. .

What's wrong with cola. It's better than most wine and a lot of "bad craft" beers.

I drink some diet cola myself. I don't think of it as a quality product. I've never recommended that someone should drink "XXX" cola. Have you?

The especially funny part is when he explains how micro breweries are starting to make products that taste more like Bud Light in order to woo A-B customers.

Im pretty sure you made that up, Roger wrote no such thing.

What he wrote was:

"In a collective sense, craft beer can offer milder, golden-colored, session-strength alternatives to the mainstream."

That in no way implies "taste more like Bud Light".

The especially funny part is when he explains how micro breweries are starting to make products that taste more like Bud Light in order to woo A-B customers.

Im pretty sure you made that up, Roger wrote no such thing.

What he wrote was:

"In a collective sense, craft beer can offer milder, golden-colored, session-strength alternatives to the mainstream."

That in no way implies "taste more like Bud Light".

I can't pull up the original link right now, so I can't go bring in more context. But what do you think the purpose would be for these "milder, golden-colored, session-strength alternatives to the mainstream"?

Is it not to appeal to those Bud Light drinkers? I'm willing to entertain alternate explanations. Why do you think Roger mentioned this in an article ridiculing A-B/InBev customers?

I can't pull up the original link right now, so I can't go bring in more context. But what do you think the purpose would be for these "milder, golden-colored, session-strength alternatives to the mainstream"?

Is it not to appeal to those Bud Light drinkers? I'm willing to entertain alternate explanations. Why do you think Roger mentioned this in an article ridiculing A-B/InBev customers?

It's fairly simple. We make something a shade closer to the mass market's sweetie spot, compromise by doing so, and meet somewhere in the middle. Except one must be willing to nudge toward the middle. I am. So many others are not, and perhaps it's a sign of the times, in the sense of polarization.

At the music fest in question, a clear majority of those willing to venture the act of sampling something different were sufficiently impressed to drink a craft beer. Many of these were women. Most of the ones unwilling to consider something different were white males roughly my own age.

That demographic breakdown probably is another clear sign of the times.

Nah, I wouldn't think of it. Meanwhile, here's a link to some truth-telling.

http://louisvillebeer.com/blog/2012/06/01/domestic-yes-and-no/

I'll let John Steinbeck do it, and in a sentence:

“Learning to read is probably the most difficult and revolutionary thing that happens to the human brain and if you don't believe that, watch an illiterate adult try to do it.”

(Steinbeck was a writer)

Come to think of it, maybe the problem is not fear of books, but fear of length.

It's fear of pointless length. Or pointless brevity, for that matter.

it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.