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Re: White Zin vs. Real Wine;Chains vs. Real Restaurants

by Steve H » Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:53 pm

Roger,
Jeez yourself! Is that high horse permanently sutured to your posterior?

I'm not familiar with all the ins and outs of hops, but I don't think you should be smirking.

Those of us who enjoy old vine California Zinfandels appreciate that these vines didn't get plowed under in the 70's, when the demand for "red" Zinfandels continued to be low.

From Wikipedia:
The demand for White Zinfandel resulted in extended commercial viability of old vine Zinfandel vineyards, which saved them from being ripped out.[4] When the fine wine boom started in the 1980s, demand for red Zinfandel picked up considerably and these vineyards became prized for the low yields from century-old vines.


And from the linked SF Chronicle article:
Wine snobs like to rag on sweet, pink White Zinfandel. Don't.

If you're an old-vine Zin fan and you're in St. Helena, consider visiting Sutter Home Winery -- which reinvented White Zinfandel in 1972 and was selling 1.5 million cases per year of it by 1984 -- and kissing the ground to thank the winery for saving some of the state's most historic vineyards from being ripped out and replanted.

"God bless those people who made White Zinfandel," says Jeff Cohn, winemaker for Rosenblum Cellars in Alameda. "Otherwise, we would have nothing. Without Sutter Home, we would've had nothing."
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Re: White Zin vs. Real Wine;Chains vs. Real Restaurants

by Jeffrey D. » Mon Jul 13, 2009 1:58 pm

Steve, how about:

"I am omniscient," Phil said, with vituperativeness in his heart. :shock:
My memory's not as sharp as it used to be.
Also, my memory's not as sharp as it used to be.
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Re: White Zin vs. Real Wine;Chains vs. Real Restaurants

by Roger A. Baylor » Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:01 pm

Steve H wrote:Roger,
Jeez yourself! Is that high horse permanently sutured to your posterior?
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Tough crowd tonight.
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Re: White Zin vs. Real Wine;Chains vs. Real Restaurants

by Joel Halbleib » Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:55 am

When I drank lots of wine and sold it for a living, I always had a hard time being frustrated with cheap wine drinkers. That is until I met the other end of the spectrum. The folks who came in to spend thousands of dollars on first growth Premier Grand Wazoo Cru wines from France. The majority of them non drinkers, it was just another investment in futures. All that does for the rest of us is drive the price up. Which was mostly ok for me since I am not a Bordeaux fan. Give me a big chewy Italian red or Burgundian grown on the west coast. Not to get to far off point, but if all wine drinkers loved big chewy reds, would any of us be able to aford them anymore?
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