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by Marsha L. » Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:38 am

I can see both sides of the issue (the original issue - the cafeteria).

I know the new cafeteria will take business away from local restaurants; but I also know that Humana took open bids on the food service contract for their new facilities, and some local restaurants were seriously considered as vendors (but it looks like they were outbid by a non-local food service company). So local restaurateurs were given a "chance" at the business. I guess it's debatable whether it was a fair chance bidding vs large coporate foodservice operations.
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by Leah S » Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:39 am

When I worked at Kindred, our company cafe was run by the folks from Zephyr Cove. Now that was some fine chow!
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by Steve Magruder » Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:11 am

TP Lowe wrote:
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I think you are overly parsing my words. Further, naming all of Humana's contributions sounds like a defensive mode that doesn't really answer the original question.

Also note that Humana's festival of plays this year is being panned by the critics. Not that it adds to my position, but I thought I'd throw that out there.


I don't think I "named all of Humana's contributions."

And to bring up critiques of the Festival is one of the most juvenile comments I can imagine.


Again, overly parsing of my words. You named several of their contributions. I think you know what I meant.

Further, it's not juvenile in any form to state a fact. I said clearly that it didn't add to my position.

Being jumpy about this isn't going to help the discussion here.
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by TP Lowe » Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:13 am

Steve Magruder wrote:
Being jumpy about this isn't going to help the discussion here.


I think the pot and kettle analogy is relevant here.

Done.
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Re: food service

by Steve Magruder » Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:14 am

Steve Shade wrote:Leah said
"My problem with what I read in the C-J online article was that its run by a California company. What, there are no food service vendors in Louisville, willing to run a corp food service? In a serious food town like this, that's what I get upset about."

Various large companies provide food service. I don't know of any from Louisville. Two Ford, two UPS, GE, Bellarmine, U of L Sub, St X, Sacred Heart,Churchill Downs and others are all serviced by out of state companies. Aramark, Sodexho, and Compass Group are the largest.


It would be nice if we had a state government more interested in growing our own industries in this state than importing them. This seems to be one of the issues floating around in the current gubernatorial campaign. I hope everyone pays close attention to this.
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by robert szappanos » Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:16 am

yea right steve...lets get rid of UPS..GE and Ford also.... :?
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by Steve Magruder » Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:17 am

TP Lowe wrote:
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Being jumpy about this isn't going to help the discussion here.


I think the pot and kettle analogy is relevant here.

Done.


So, you're saying that you have pulled yourself down to my level? It didn't exactly advance the discussion to super-parse the messenger rather than to actually discuss the matter, did it?
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by Robin Garr » Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:34 am

Steve Magruder wrote:So, you're saying that you have pulled yourself down to my level? It didn't exactly advance the discussion to super-parse the messenger rather than to actually discuss the matter, did it?


Okay, okay, will one of you please let the other have the last word so we can move on? ;)
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by Steve Magruder » Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:36 am

I would be happy to conduct a rational discussion with Lowe and others on the Humana matter.

If my initial referenced comment was "jumpy", it was jumpy about the moves of a corporation, you know, an entity that has no feelings, whereas Lowe is being jumpy about what I, an individual, says in a forum.

Unless one is employed as Humana's PR agent, I don't understand why anyone would go out of their way to do this work for free, the same way I don't understand why kids go out of their way to promote Abercrombie & Fitch on their clothing.
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by TP Lowe » Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:39 am

Robin Garr wrote:
Okay, okay, will one of you please let the other have the last word so we can move on? ;)


As I said, Robin, "done."
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by Steve Magruder » Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:40 am

TP Lowe wrote:
Robin Garr wrote:
Okay, okay, will one of you please let the other have the last word so we can move on? ;)


As I said, Robin, "done."


I'm sorry you have given up. It was going to be a spirited discussion. Oh well...
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by Robin Garr » Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:41 am

TP Lowe wrote:As I said, Robin, "done."


<i>Well</i> done. <wink>
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by robert szappanos » Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:41 am

LAST WORD..... :)
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by Robin Garr » Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:04 pm

Leah s wrote:My problem with what I read in the C-J online article was that its run by a California company. What, there are no food service vendors in Louisville, willing to run a corp food service? In a serious food town like this, that's what I get upset about.


I do, too, and sadly, it's becoming more and more common. A few years ago, the Louisville Free Public Library had its Website built by a Chicago company. Stock Yards Bank had its Website done by a firm from Kansas City, if I recall correctly. (And neither product was a prize.)

More incredibly, you may recall that when Gov. Ernie decided to hire an ad firm to help "re-brand" Kentucky, the primary contract went to a company in Atlanta.

And it's the same in the local food and hospitality biz. I believe 610 Magnolia is, or was, using a PR firm in New York City; and I've been getting a hailstorm of (very poorly executed) press releases in recent weeks from a firm representing the Galt House ... from Cincinnati.
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by Steve Magruder » Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:15 pm

Robin Garr wrote:
Leah s wrote:My problem with what I read in the C-J online article was that its run by a California company. What, there are no food service vendors in Louisville, willing to run a corp food service? In a serious food town like this, that's what I get upset about.


I do, too, and sadly, it's becoming more and more common. A few years ago, the Louisville Free Public Library had its Website built by a Chicago company. Stock Yards Bank had its Website done by a firm from Kansas City, if I recall correctly. (And neither product was a prize.)

More incredibly, you may recall that when Gov. Ernie decided to hire an ad firm to help "re-brand" Kentucky, the primary contract went to a company in Atlanta.

And it's the same in the local food and hospitality biz. I believe 610 Magnolia is, or was, using a PR firm in New York City; and I've been getting a hailstorm of (very poorly executed) press releases in recent weeks from a firm representing the Galt House ... from Cincinnati.


I should probably give the state some credit. We do have a "Kentucky Proud" program, which Gov. John Y. Brown, Jr. started back in the early 80's. It has been building gradually over the years, but it appears to me that the mentality behind this program hasn't branched out into many industries. We need a "Kentucky Proud" for any potential industry, IMHO.

Re: website development, there are plenty of firms and designers in town, so it would be kind of shocking if locals aren't being considered for the jobs. I sometimes wonder if there's an assumption in the Louisville business community that there's no high-tech talent here. On the contrary, we are teeming with it. We even have a good engineering school here (Speed, my alma mater), and U of L (I think) has a Comp Sci program outside of Speed.
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