Chick-Fil-A lays it on the line: They don't like gay couples

If you are a business and you are going to just come out and make a stand like this, then yes, you are going to lose business with those who have a different viewpoint. If you feel strongly enough about it that you just have to put it out there, that's fine, but it has consequences. I don't really know why some businesses choose to do that, but they do and they have the right.

Also, doesn't mean I am going to turn a blind eye to it. If your business says "we don't like X and the money you give us will go to us spreading that around," and I happen to think X is just fine, then you are probably not going to get my money, no matter what you are in the business of doing or how good you are at it. My dollar is my vote, and I vote that you will not get my support.

If tomorrow Wal-mart announces that they funded the 9/11 terrorist attack and will continue to fund similar acts, would you still buy groceries there? When a business puts their politics out for all to see, then customers are able to make a choice about where they want their money to go.

Otherwise, we'd be hearing things like, "Boy, this KKK soda sure is tasty! It's a shame they take my money and buy nooses, but man, this is good soda pop!"

Ronnie, you need to check out some You Tube or other video about Wally World during what they call "Black Friday". I've pretty much lost faith in what the people in this country deem important. Much less trying to explain what moral values really are.

I've never called for silencing Chick-Fil-A. They do have a right to say whatever they wish - there's no civil rights act for gay marriage. But I also reserve the right to speak out - and to join a chorus - in criticism of their approach. And I reserve the right to choose not to dine there, and to encourage others of similar mind to make the same choice.

Do you object to any of that? Have you seen me call for anything more?

No. I object to calling their position on gay marriage "hate". That is a technique to stop the public debate, not enhance it.

One should try to understand folks in their own terms, not resort to calling their positions "hate".

there have always been gay people, get over it.

There have always been Christians. Get over it.

And every other flavor of American. I'm over it. Why aren't you?


NOTE: Grammar corrected after Mark Gilley notification.

there have always been gay people, get over it.

There has always been Christians. Get over it.

And every other flavor of American. I'm over it. Why aren't you?

I wonder if Obama eats Chick-Fil-A?

there have always been gay people, get over it.

There has always been Christians. Get over it.

And every other flavor of American. I'm over it. Why aren't you?

I wonder if Obama eats Chick-Fil-A?

The last I heard is that it tastes like chicken.........

For me, this draws the line:

I praised them for facillity, quality and hospitality. Was willing to look over internal policies- why judge?

But it would seem they have gone on the attack, shoving thier beliefs into my chicken sandwich. All of the sudden- the flavor is not so sweet, the facillity- disingenuous, the hospitality- bigoted.

I, for one, am a proponent of same-sex marriage- but I would never allow such a view to affect the way that I treat anyone. To do so is a gross violation of the most cardinal rule of hospitality.

And I'm pretty sure God was clear on the 'be kind to one another' thing...

I've never called for silencing Chick-Fil-A. They do have a right to say whatever they wish - there's no civil rights act for gay marriage. But I also reserve the right to speak out - and to join a chorus - in criticism of their approach. And I reserve the right to choose not to dine there, and to encourage others of similar mind to make the same choice.

Do you object to any of that? Have you seen me call for anything more?

No. I object to calling their position on gay marriage "hate". That is a technique to stop the public debate, not enhance it.

One should try to understand folks in their own terms, not resort to calling their positions "hate".

If you are a business and you are going to just come out and make a stand like this, then yes, you are going to lose business with those who have a different viewpoint. If you feel strongly enough about it that you just have to put it out there, that's fine, but it has consequences. I don't really know why some businesses choose to do that, but they do and they have the right.

Also, doesn't mean I am going to turn a blind eye to it. If your business says "we don't like X and the money you give us will go to us spreading that around," and I happen to think X is just fine, then you are probably not going to get my money, no matter what you are in the business of doing or how good you are at it. My dollar is my vote, and I vote that you will not get my support.

If tomorrow Wal-mart announces that they funded the 9/11 terrorist attack and will continue to fund similar acts, would you still buy groceries there? When a business puts their politics out for all to see, then customers are able to make a choice about where they want their money to go.

Otherwise, we'd be hearing things like, "Boy, this KKK soda sure is tasty! It's a shame they take my money and buy nooses, but man, this is good soda pop!"

Very well said, Ronnie.

As for "hate" - as I'm the only person who has used that term - I don't see their position as hateful. I see their actions as hateful. They are in the hate-spreading business, and I won't support that.

Furthermore, I don't care to have a public debate on this topic. I care to call them haters, point out their hating ways, and hope a God does exist (and that he is vengeful).

Furthermore, I don't care to have a public debate on this topic. I care to call them haters, point out their hating ways, and hope a God does exist (and that he is vengeful).

So much for understanding the "other", and trying to learn about different world views. This is what is wrong with the academy. It's now about indoctrination and not about expanding horizons.

Many on this forum like to travel to experience other cultures. There is a culture foreign to them embodied in their next door neighbors and colleagues, fellow Americans. Yet, instead of engaging and trying to understand, they are ridiculed and ostracized as "haters".

You are free to do whatever you want. Just don't pretend you ain't hatin'.

This is what is wrong with the academy.

Where did that come from?

This is what is wrong with the academy.

Where did that come from?

Steve knows what I do for a living.

I indoctrinate young minds into the leftist, socialist agenda.

Furthermore, I don't care to have a public debate on this topic. I care to call them haters, point out their hating ways, and hope a God does exist (and that he is vengeful).

So much for understanding the "other", and trying to learn about different world views. This is what is wrong with the academy. It's now about indoctrination and not about expanding horizons.

Many on this forum like to travel to experience other cultures. There is a culture foreign to them embodied in their next door neighbors and colleagues, fellow Americans. Yet, instead of engaging and trying to understand, they are ridiculed and ostracized as "haters".

You are free to do whatever you want. Just don't pretend you ain't hatin'.

Your assumptions about my relationship with the academy are out-of-line.

And I'm not sure what I did to be on the end of your scorn, but I'll take it as a sign of respect.

Your assumptions about my relationship with the academy are out-of-line.

And I'm not sure what I did to be on the end of your scorn, but I'll take it as a sign of respect.

Matthew, It's not scorn. It's extreme, E X T R E M E, sadness and resignation. Did I say extreme? And resignation?

When I see someone in your position, not even interested in a real public debate, and even further, a virtual "Let's shoot them all and let God sort them out", well, let's just say I weep for my country.

there have always been gay people, get over it.

There has always been Christians. Get over it.

And every other flavor of American. I'm over it. Why aren't you?

I made no mention of christians, so what is your point other than to prove bad grammar and bad ideas go hand in hand?

Your assumptions about my relationship with the academy are out-of-line.

And I'm not sure what I did to be on the end of your scorn, but I'll take it as a sign of respect.

Matthew, It's not scorn. It's extreme, E X T R E M E, sadness and resignation. Did I say extreme? And resignation?

When I see someone in your position, not even interested in a real public debate, and even further, a virtual "Let's shoot them all and let God sort them out", well, let's just say I weep for my country.

Steve, I've written and deleted about 50 different responses (none of them hateful, it should be noted). Honestly, I just don't have anything to say. I don't understand how I'm uninterested in a real public debate. I'm merely interested in supporting the human rights of those I love and care for, and if that means not being willing to listen to or engage people who commit hateful actions, then it is what it is.

But please don't confuse this with some unwillingness to engage public debate or consider it evidence of what is wrong with the academy. You really don't know me well enough to arrive at either of those conclusions. And, if you are making that claim about the academy, then you are making the same gross generalization of which you are accusing me.