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Re: Favorite Beer Mixes At Home

by Rob Coffey » Fri May 06, 2011 1:29 pm

Calories for a few semi-randomly selected 12 ounce bottles:

Bud Select 55 - 55
Bud Select - 99
Bud Light - 110
--------(Im not sure anything above this line is actually beer)
Guinness Draught - 126
Bud - 145
Pilsner Urquell - 160
Sierra Nevada Bigfoot - 330

While it isnt exact, there is a pretty good correlation between body and calories. We are talking maybe a ~10% difference between a Pilsner and a Macro Lager. And Guinness is about half way to being a light beer.
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Re: Favorite Beer Mixes At Home

by Roger A. Baylor » Fri May 06, 2011 1:51 pm

Rob Coffey wrote:To actually return this thread back to the original topic.


And to allow me the chance to say: Half & half, black & tan, whatever, is an abomination.

Do it the seasoned beer professional's way: An Imperial pint of each, and let the mixing occur in your stomach, where intended.

Hmm, and I'm in a fairly good mood considering it's Horse Pimp Days. :D
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Re: Favorite Beer Mixes At Home

by JustinHammond » Fri May 06, 2011 1:58 pm

Rob Coffey wrote:Calories for a few semi-randomly selected 12 ounce bottles:

Bud Select 55 - 55
Bud Select - 99
Bud Light - 110
--------(Im not sure anything above this line is actually beer)
Guinness Draught - 126
Bud - 145
Pilsner Urquell - 160
Sierra Nevada Bigfoot - 330

While it isnt exact, there is a pretty good correlation between body and calories. We are talking maybe a ~10% difference between a Pilsner and a Macro Lager. And Guinness is about half way to being a light beer.


The correlation is closer between % of alcohol and calories vs. body. Guinness is only around 4%, with Bigfoot around 9.5%. More sugar equals more alcohol and calories.
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Re: Favorite Beer Mixes At Home

by Steve P » Fri May 06, 2011 2:37 pm

Roger A. Baylor wrote:And to allow me the chance to say: Half & half, black & tan, whatever, is an abomination.

Do it the seasoned beer professional's way: An Imperial pint of each, and let the mixing occur in your stomach, where intended.



I feel your pain Roger. Why just the other day I was pondering why the need to mix spices and fruits and nuts and God knows what else when brewing beer. :roll: I mean a truly seasoned beer professional wouldn't stand for these sissy abominations. After sufficient pondering, I came to the conclusion that if I want nuts or fruit in my beer, I'll just sit down with a pint of Ale and a bowl of nuts or fruit and let the mixing occur in their stomach, where intended.
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Re: Favorite Beer Mixes At Home

by Oliver Able » Fri May 06, 2011 2:54 pm

Steve P wrote:
I feel your pain Roger. Why just the other day I was pondering why the need to mix spices and fruits and nuts and God knows what else when brewing beer. :roll: I mean a truly seasoned beer professional wouldn't stand for these sissy abominations.

Exactly, we need an american Reinheitsgebot. No more adjuncts, spices, fruits, nuts, hop varietals, yeast strains, etc;
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Re: Favorite Beer Mixes At Home

by DanB » Fri May 06, 2011 2:57 pm

This reminds me why I should never bring a corkscrew to a beer geek fight. Anyway, to me rice beers seem a lot thinner than a German Pils... but that's just me.

BTW, thinking of heading over to Southern Belgium tomorrow. Any suggestions? Thinking Orval or thereabouts.
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Re: Favorite Beer Mixes At Home

by Steve P » Fri May 06, 2011 3:41 pm

Oliver Able wrote:
Steve P wrote:
I feel your pain Roger. Why just the other day I was pondering why the need to mix spices and fruits and nuts and God knows what else when brewing beer. :roll: I mean a truly seasoned beer professional wouldn't stand for these sissy abominations.

Exactly, we need an american Reinheitsgebot. No more adjuncts, spices, fruits, nuts, hop varietals, yeast strains, etc;


Ahhhhhhhhh.....Finally. A fellow traveler. :D
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Re: Favorite Beer Mixes At Home

by Robin Garr » Fri May 06, 2011 4:33 pm

Oliver Able wrote: hop varietals, yeast strains, etc;

Hold it, I was with you to that point. But Reinheitsgebot does allow brewer's choice in those realms, I believe, and I say it's a good thing. Standardization becomes regimentation when it goes too far. Harrumph.
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Re: Favorite Beer Mixes At Home

by Steve P » Fri May 06, 2011 4:40 pm

Robin Garr wrote:
Oliver Able wrote: hop varietals, yeast strains, etc;

Hold it, I was with you to that point. But Reinheitsgebot does allow brewer's choice in those realms, I believe, and I say it's a good thing. Standardization becomes regimentation when it goes too far. Harrumph.


Oooops....missed the hops and yeast part. Ya gots tah have some variety there I'm afraid. The rest of that stuff is just foo-foo.
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Re: Favorite Beer Mixes At Home

by David R. Pierce » Fri May 06, 2011 10:29 pm

DanB wrote:This reminds me why I should never bring a corkscrew to a beer geek fight. Anyway, to me rice beers seem a lot thinner than a German Pils... but that's just me.

BTW, thinking of heading over to Southern Belgium tomorrow. Any suggestions? Thinking Orval or thereabouts.

My personal favorites: Brasserie d'Achouffe, Brasserie Fantôme, Brasserie La Caracole, And a bit farther east, Brasserie À Vapeur.

I miss Belgium.
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Re: Favorite Beer Mixes At Home

by Lonnie Turner » Sat May 07, 2011 1:12 am

Hopefully mixed beers isn't too much of an affront, we should look at it as what it is - a mixed drink.

An earlier post mentioned radler served in Germany as beer mixed with Sprite. Oh, yuck. I didn't recall till he mentioned the name but it was served to us as beer with lemonade. The Pils version was not something I'd want again but the dark beer mixed drink was very tasty for a bit of a change.

Folks on this Forum include a lot of beer enthusiasts, even beer gourmands if that's the right way to put it. In fact, the only Avatar on the Forum I've had so far is a polarized microphotograph of beer. I have a lot of respect for you as I've stuck with drinking "real" beers since about 1982, excepting during times of economic distress or under other unusual conditions, e.g. Lollapaloosa or equivalent on a 90+ degree day. Anything beerish beats anything else. Or at a friend's home where the only option is, you know. Sometimes when the pleasure of beer is secondary like the references to mowing or fishing.

What I was really hoping the most for has not come about and that was a suggestion for a good mix of real beer & swill. I have to admit I have utterly failed in experiments, off and on over the years, to get that sweet spot. No matter what I've tried it is always the real beer that suffers more than the economical cutting agent of swill is elevated. My palate is not as sophisticated as many here, so I don't know if the corn or rice is the problem or what. But I can't find a way to cut good beer without making me wish I'd left the good stuff alone.

Anyway, it's nice to see such a wide ranging discussion of the potential and pitfalls of experimenting with the oldest adult beverage in human history.
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Re: Favorite Beer Mixes At Home

by Oliver Able » Sat May 07, 2011 3:07 am

Robin Garr wrote:
Oliver Able wrote: hop varietals, yeast strains, etc;

Hold it, I was with you to that point. But Reinheitsgebot does allow brewer's choice in those realms, I believe, and I say it's a good thing. Standardization becomes regimentation when it goes too far. Harrumph.

True, however I was attempting to be facetious, obviously not well enough. :)
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Re: Favorite Beer Mixes At Home

by Robin Garr » Sat May 07, 2011 8:27 am

Oliver Able wrote:True, however I was attempting to be facetious, obviously not well enough. :)

Ah, got it. Sort of like telling crucifixion jokes on Easter ...
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Re: Favorite Beer Mixes At Home

by Rob Coffey » Sat May 07, 2011 9:32 am

Lonnie Turner wrote:No matter what I've tried it is always the real beer that suffers more than the economical cutting agent of swill is elevated.


I think Hank Hill's take on christian rock explains your result:

"Can't you see you're not making christianity any better, you're just making rock 'n roll worse."
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Re: Favorite Beer Mixes At Home

by David R. Pierce » Sat May 07, 2011 10:35 am

Rob Coffey wrote:
Lonnie Turner wrote:No matter what I've tried it is always the real beer that suffers more than the economical cutting agent of swill is elevated.


I think Hank Hill's take on christian rock explains your result:

"Can't you see you're not making christianity any better, you're just making rock 'n roll worse."

"Take any rock love song, replace baby with Jesus and you have christian rock" Eric Cartman
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