Chick-Fil-A under fire again

The ideology of money spoke this evening at the Chick Fil A on Bardstown Rd and the Gene Snyder this evening. The line of cars wrapped around Kohl's parking lot and well onto Bardstown Rd.

That's ridiculously short sighted. I'd like to skip ahead to the end of 2013 to compare their same store sales to 2012. I'd also like to see if all their new store openings happen at their projected rate. You're right about money talking. We'll just have to see who's money gets the last word.

I boycotted Chick-Fil-A ages ago, and I find it kind of amusing, and a little sad, that people are joining in because of the company's political donations to entities that are anti-gay marraige. It is far more offensive to me that they actively discriminate against non-christians, and will not allow anyone who is not a "good christian" to purchase a franchise. That excludes little old Jewish me.

[Robin Garr]

It is far more offensive to me that they actively discriminate against non-christians, and will not allow anyone who is not a "good christian" to purchase a franchise. That excludes little old Jewish me.

Wow! I didn't know that ... or that it's even legal for a franchisor to discriminate on the basis of religion. One more reason to make it a no-go zone.

For me, this sums it up quite succintly.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=4281791641266&set=a.1073115786375.12153.1180581746&type=1&ref=nf

Somehow Andy Borowitz always manages to cut to the chase:

August 1, 2012

Chick-fil-A Introduces New Hate Sauce

Posted by Andy Borowitz

NEW YORK (The Borowitz Report)—Customers across the nation who turned out for Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day were in for a surprise, as the chicken restaurant chose today to launch a new product, Hate Sauce.

Delighted customers mobbed the restaurants to try the zesty new sauce, with many chicken fanciers ordering their sandwiches with extra hate.“It’s so spicy it makes your mouth feel like it’s on fire—like a gay couple in hell,” said Harland Dorrinson, who sampled the sauce at a Chick-fil-A in Orlando.

But even as Chick-fil-A prepared to call its new hate sauce an instant hit, it faced a challenge from an upstart rival, Wing-n-nuts.

The rival chain, based in Falls Church, Virginia, chose today to introduce a new product targeting Chick-fil-A patrons, the Chicken Bacon Bigotwich.

“We think we’re going to take a big bite out of Chick-fil-A’s customer base,” said Wing-n-nuts corporate spokesperson Carol Foyler.“Their founder is anti-gay. But ours is anti-gay, anti-immigrant, and anti-woman. When word gets out about that, there’ll be lines around the block.”
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Read more http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/b ... z22OLoRgTF

One of my son's baseball teammates father is a supplier for CFA. He ran out of product for them yesterday. They are doing a record business. He said that usually when a CFA opens they do $30,000 per week. He says that stores yesterday were on track to do $30k in a day.

You use a lot of words.

Yeah, I could use an editor sometimes, especially at a late hour, after working on a PC upgrade/reconfiguration, and post Manhattan and red wine imbibing.

Let me try to sum it up in a few, because this one is easy: if there is a dispute, and one side is arguing for inclusiveness while the other would reject (or even, in the case of some hate groups, kill) other people, the choice to me seems clear and unambiguous. This was true of African-Americans, of women and of gay men and lesbians, a list meant to be representative but not necessarily exhaustive.

You just can't help linking opposition to same sex marriage with hate, racism, and murder can you? Chick-Fil-A is not the same thing as the KKK. It's just not.

On inclusiveness/exclusiveness, the reasons why there are so many Christian denominations is because folks disagree. Always. Should Baptists allow equal time to atheists at their worships? Are Baptists haters for excluding atheists from speaking?

As I have stated before, I think this circle can be squared by reducing government involvement around marriage. If there were no government benefits wrapped around marriage, no one but busybodies would care what the Cathy's thought about it.

The Colonel's take: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp4RdX8 ... r_embedded

DD

For me, this sums it up quite succintly.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=4281791641266&set=a.1073115786375.12153.1180581746&type=1&ref=nf

As this does for me.

I boycotted Chick-Fil-A ages ago, and I find it kind of amusing, and a little sad, that people are joining in because of the company's political donations to entities that are anti-gay marraige. It is far more offensive to me that they actively discriminate against non-christians, and will not allow anyone who is not a "good christian" to purchase a franchise. That excludes little old Jewish me.

Is there some info about this online anywhere?

Thanks.

[Robin Garr]

You just can't help linking opposition to same sex marriage with hate, racism, and murder can you? Chick-Fil-A is not the same thing as the KKK. It's just not.

Perhaps; but it's a great deal like the White Citizens Councils that quietly relied on the Klan to get the dirty work done. Animus is clearly defined and easy to recognize.

On inclusiveness/exclusiveness, the reasons why there are so many Christian denominations is because folks disagree. Always. Should Baptists allow equal time to atheists at their worships? Are Baptists haters for excluding atheists from speaking?

Baptists might actually gain from voluntarily engaging with an atheist and perhaps expanding their range by discovering the thinking that underlies a philosophy with which they disagree. But we digress. There's also the question of how you define an atheist? Is it a person who doesn't believe in any spirituality at all? Or is it the way people like Hitchens and Dawkins seem to define it, a person who doesn't believe in the traditional image of the deity as an angry, bearded old white man in the clouds who smites people at random? Depending on how you define it, a lot of mainline Christians might qualify as atheists.

As I have stated before, I think this circle can be squared by reducing government involvement around marriage. If there were no government benefits wrapped around marriage, no one but busybodies would care what the Cathy's thought about it.

That makes a great deal of sense, I actually agree with you on this point. However, the married public isn't lightly going to give up the many legal benefits that attach to state recognition of our status. Until such time as it does go away, however, access to those benefits really does need to be granted to all couples, not denied to a minority subset on the basis of some people's religious opinion.

You just can't help linking opposition to same sex marriage with hate, racism, and murder can you? Chick-Fil-A is not the same thing as the KKK. It's just not.

Perhaps; but it's a great deal like the White Citizens Councils that quietly relied on the Klan to get the dirty work done. Animus is clearly defined and easy to recognize.

I don't see any useful analogue between same sex marriage and racism. Clearly, this is our main point of disagreement.

Baptists might actually gain from voluntarily engaging with an atheist and perhaps expanding their range by discovering the thinking that underlies a philosophy with which they disagree. But we digress. There's also the question of how you define an atheist? Is it a person who doesn't believe in any spirituality at all? Or is it the way people like Hitchens and Dawkins seem to define it, a person who doesn't believe in the traditional image of the deity as an angry, bearded old white man in the clouds who smites people at random? Depending on how you define it, a lot of mainline Christians might qualify as atheists.

There for a second, you had me visualizing an atheist taxonomy.

That makes a great deal of sense, I actually agree with you on this point. However, the married public isn't lightly going to give up the many legal benefits that attach to state recognition of our status. Until such time as it does go away, however, access to those benefits really does need to be granted to all couples, not denied to a minority subset on the basis of some people's religious opinion.

It will be easier to square that circle if folks weren't pointing at the other side calling them haters, etc. There has to be a dialog. Wouldn't it be wonderful to cancel the culture wars?

BTW, welcome to the libertarian path!

Is there some info about this online anywhere?

Yes, but I can't find it right now because of all of the chatter about their anti-gay marriage stance.

But you can read an article about the screening process here: http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2007/0723/080.html

65-70 franchisees are selected each year out of 20,000 applicants in a private evaluation: http://www.chick-fil-a.com/Company/Care ... pplication

[Robin Garr]

You just can't help linking opposition to same sex marriage with hate, racism, and murder can you? Chick-Fil-A is not the same thing as the KKK. It's just not.

Perhaps; but it's a great deal like the White Citizens Councils that quietly relied on the Klan to get the dirty work done. Animus is clearly defined and easy to recognize.

I don't see any useful analogue between same sex marriage and racism. Clearly, this is our main point of disagreement.

You could ask Matthew Shepard, or his survivors. Or even talk to these nice folks right here in the Derby City:
http://www.wave3.com/story/19050020/fam ... hate-crime

And for those out there supporting free speech today, I'll be burning American Flags and Bibles this weekend in my front yard. I know I'll see you all there to support my right to do so! Heck, bring any old Christmas creches you might have lying about, we'll toss those on the pyre!

You are right in saying that you can do this, there's no law that says you can't. Others may not agree with that like the situation we've been discussing for 17 pages but you have every right to do what you mentioned.

Understood, but how many of the "Free Speech Defenders" at CFA yesterday will show up at my house this weekend to support that right? I'll give you $5 for each one.