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Re: Culinary Salaries

by Aaron Adams » Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:14 am

Average student coming out of culinary school who works in a restaurant will make between $9-12 an hour in a local, single owner style restaurant. If you're doing corporate you can tack on a buck or two an hour to that. Honestly my biggest advice is for your a culinary student to find the job they want to be in after culinary school, but start it way before they graduate. That way they are using their degree to gun for a management/lead cook role, instead of using it as a line on the resume. Honestly, It will all depend on their personal drive and connections they've made while they are coming up.

Honestly, it depends on what they want to do when they graduate. I have a student who was making 65k right out of culinary school with a 5 year contract with her employer that would scale up to 100k if she met all incentives. She didn't cook, she applied her culinary knowledge in demos/sales pitches and sold her company equipment all over the place. She spent a week in Beijing for example to land a fairly huge account. Now I'm not saying that is the norm, but she thought outside the box and looked for a job that she would be excellent at and got it. If you're boyfriend has the idea that he must work in a locally owned restaurant after his degree, he won't see a return on his investment for quite a while.

Of the dozen people or so I was close to in my Sullivan Labs (2005 graduate) here's where they have ended up:
Girl 1 - Pastry Degree - runs an AIDs clinic
Girl 2 - Pastry Degree - Cooked for a year and went back to school in an unrelated field
Girl 3 - Culinary Degree - Returned to her former Lab Tech job (not sure if she ever actually even went into the Culinary Field)
Best Buddy 1 - Runs a construction company now (this one is deceptive, it was the family business and I think was a forgone conclusion, no matter what degree he got)
Buddy 2 - Culinary Degree - Now a marine, but did a ton of line work in town until then (and has said he wants to do it again once his term ends)
Buddy 3 - Culinary Degree - Underpaid Sous Chef
Buddy 4 - Culinary Degree - Lost track of, but last we heard he was still cooking in Portland Oregon
Buddy 5- Culinary Degree (unfinished) - Special Forces (why he dropped out)
Associate 1 - Culinary Degree - Exec or Chef de Cuisine at fine dining restaurant in town
Myself - Culinary Degree - Sous Chef

Looking back over that list, the overriding theme is that over half of the people I have kept in touch with in culinary school will not use their degree. Of the ones who are still cooking, all of us did it BEFORE going to Sullivan (1 exception to that). The rest tried their hands at it, and decided the life was not for them. Tell your boyfriend to go work in the industry for 6 months, and if he loves it, Sullivan will be worth the investment. Not to insure a huge salary but to insure that he has a decent skill set to push him in a career he greatly enjoys. If he is wishywashy, cook for another 6 months and reevaluate, if he is unhappy, save the money and do something else.

Edit: Reread your 2nd post in the thread, and see that he has done cooking professionally, but going to leave the original paragraph for anyone else reading.
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Re: Culinary Salaries

by Gary Z » Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:48 am

Trisha,

As I said in a previous post, it amazes me that anyone would spend so much money on a culinary degree when their only options, upon graduation, are sous chef or restaurant manager. Neither of those jobs require a degree. As a matter of fact, most restaurants value experience above education. Others have said differently here but the fact is, unless you have a guaranteed, high paying position coming out of college... you're probably going to end up in an $8 to $11 per hour range. Not to say that you can't work your way up... but after spending $60k on a degree.... should you really have to?

I'm not trying to devalue a culinary degree, I'm just trying to keep things in perspective. Like I said before.... there are a lot of employers who won't hire cooking school students because they know that they are too opinionated, slow to assemble, and too focused on presentation when the job requires a more frenetic pace.

I personally consider a culinary degree along the same lines as an art lit degree or music studies. It's either a passion or it's not. You do it because that's your interest. You have to accept that you're not gonna make a lot of money, unless you're one of the rare ones that are hooked up through talent, friends, family or investors.
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Re: Culinary Salaries

by Jackie R. » Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:31 pm

I think that some people choose to get a culinary degree because they want to streamline the whole "getting experience in the business" to start up their own restaurant. If I wanted to be a chef, but didn't think I'd have the money to open my own after graduation, I'd skip the school and learn everything I need to know in the field and maybe save enough to open a cart downtown or something. May take a few more years, but at least you're getting paid and making direct contact. On the other hand, if I had the dough, I'd go to school, find a couple places to intern, and open my own. I don't think you HAVE to have decades in the business to run a successful one. So sometimes money does buy happiness, but that's a lot of money.
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