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Re: Hilarious

by Charles W. » Mon May 21, 2007 3:10 pm

Kris Billiter wrote:Ed,
As a current student of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, the undisputed bastion of reformed thought and calvinistic theology, let me just say that your "Calvinist" comment was the funniest thing I have read in a long time. I get so sick of hearing about Calvinism. Hilarious! Just what I needed!
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Oh, it's disputed.
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by Kris Billiter » Tue May 22, 2007 9:08 am

"It's disputed." Really? There is a school out there right now pushing reformed theology more than Southern? Where?
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by Charles W. » Tue May 22, 2007 9:17 am

Kris Billiter wrote:"It's disputed." Really? There is a school out there right now pushing reformed theology more than Southern? Where?


You cannot be the bastion of Reformed theology if you simultaneously reject the baptism of infants and promote congregational ecclesiology. It is Reformed-light or Reformed-gone-American. I know there is this Reformed-Baptist tradition that has some history, but it is clearly a departure.

It is, of course, a matter of opinion, but for the more conservative among us: Westminster Philadelphia, for instance. For a more Continental Reformation feel, Calvin Seminary in Grand Rapids. There's Reformed Seminary Jackson and Orlando, Knox in Ft. Lauderdale, etc. For the not-quite-as-conservative, Princeton Seminary still has a strong tradition (although not that uniform).

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by Ron Johnson » Tue May 22, 2007 10:15 am

so is the Calvinist pizza one that comes out of the oven as a sinner and can only redeem itself by confessing its sins to its maker, or baker as the case may be?
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by Leah S » Tue May 22, 2007 10:24 am

Seriously, I just spit coffee at the screen I laughed so hard.
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by Ron Johnson » Tue May 22, 2007 10:28 am

From now on I will only be able to view the wood burning pizza oven at Primo as the fiery depths of hell.
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by Robin Garr » Tue May 22, 2007 10:29 am

Ron Johnson wrote:so is the Calvinist pizza one that comes out of the oven as a sinner and can only redeem itself by confessing its sins to its maker, or baker as the case may be?


On the contrary: If the pizza is not of the elect, then confession will avail it nothing.
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by Charles W. » Tue May 22, 2007 10:33 am

Robin Garr wrote:
Ron Johnson wrote:so is the Calvinist pizza one that comes out of the oven as a sinner and can only redeem itself by confessing its sins to its maker, or baker as the case may be?


On the contrary: If the pizza is not of the elect, then confession will avail it nothing.



Exactly. The pizza is redeemed and thus has the will to confess to the baker, or the pizza is not redeemed and never wants to.
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by Kris Billiter » Tue May 22, 2007 10:34 am

Charles,
Thanks for the info. BTW, I love this board!
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by Ron Johnson » Tue May 22, 2007 10:42 am

Charles W. wrote:
Robin Garr wrote:
Ron Johnson wrote:so is the Calvinist pizza one that comes out of the oven as a sinner and can only redeem itself by confessing its sins to its maker, or baker as the case may be?


On the contrary: If the pizza is not of the elect, then confession will avail it nothing.



Exactly. The pizza is redeemed and thus has the will to confess to the baker, or the pizza is not redeemed and never wants to.


either way, do I get to eat it?
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by Charles W. » Tue May 22, 2007 10:45 am

Ron Johnson wrote:
Charles W. wrote:
Robin Garr wrote:
Ron Johnson wrote:so is the Calvinist pizza one that comes out of the oven as a sinner and can only redeem itself by confessing its sins to its maker, or baker as the case may be?


On the contrary: If the pizza is not of the elect, then confession will avail it nothing.



Exactly. The pizza is redeemed and thus has the will to confess to the baker, or the pizza is not redeemed and never wants to.


either way, do I get to eat it?


Yes, Calvin (being French) was a big fan of good food and wine. All good things come from God, even if the reprobate bake them.
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Calvinism

by Sonja W » Tue May 22, 2007 7:38 pm

Don't forget Calvin College in Grand Rapids MI, Hope College in Holland, MI, Dordt College in Dordt IA and Wheaton College in Wheaton, IL.

Calvin (named after John Calvin) in particular is a bastion of Calvinistic scholarship. They do not consider Southern Baptist to be representive of Calvinism. Just sayin'.
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Re: Calvinism

by Charles W. » Tue May 22, 2007 7:40 pm

Sonja W wrote:Don't forget Calvin College in Grand Rapids MI, Hope College in Holland, MI, Dordt College in Dordt IA and Wheaton College in Wheaton, IL.

Calvin (named after John Calvin) in particular is a bastion of Calvinistic scholarship. They do not consider Southern Baptist to be representive of Calvinism. Just sayin'.


I was only listing seminaries not colleges. Wheaton never been particularly Calvinist, has it--significant dispensational influence at some points. Not so much anymore.
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by Matthew Landan » Tue May 22, 2007 8:22 pm

As a native Chicagoan I would recommend the original Pizzeria Uno
29 E Ohio St
Chicago, IL 60611
(312) 321-1000

or Pizzeria Due
619 N Wabash Ave
Chicago, IL 60611-2713

Lou Malinotti worked at Uno's for Ike Swell and invented the Chicago-style deep dish pizza. Later Ike opened Due around the corner from Uno.

I always take Lou's Pizza when I'm in the burbs but if I'm downtown and I want to eat in a great place and get the history then it's Uno's Or Due's.
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Re: Calvinism

by Sonja W » Tue May 22, 2007 9:58 pm

Charles W. wrote:
Sonja W wrote:Don't forget Calvin College in Grand Rapids MI, Hope College in Holland, MI, Dordt College in Dordt IA and Wheaton College in Wheaton, IL.

Calvin (named after John Calvin) in particular is a bastion of Calvinistic scholarship. They do not consider Southern Baptist to be representive of Calvinism. Just sayin'.


I was only listing seminaries not colleges. Wheaton never been particularly Calvinist, has it--significant dispensational influence at some points. Not so much anymore.


I agree about Wheaton, but it shares the same Dutch-Calvinist roots as the rest on the list. It (as well as Dordt) has evolved into a more evangelical institution, culturally and theologically. Mark Noll, who used to teach there, is a folk hero at Calvin for having written "The Scandal of the Evangelical Mind", which addresses the anti-intellectualism of the evangelical movement.

Foodwise, Calvinism in this country hasn't contributed much to the culinary scene beyond grey pot roast, grim potatoes and countless Campbell's Soup casseroles. Oh, and ham buns - a staple at every high school graduation open house.
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