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Re: Havana Rumba -- a change in expectations/experiences

by Jess T » Fri May 22, 2009 3:51 pm

haha.. sorry guys, but this was enjoyable for me. I can sometimes be "overly sensitive" myself if someone doesn't like what I post on here. But who cares! That's what makes this forum awesome. And I do agree that some places are "protected" on here, but I find its because those places have 1) awesome food or 2) awesome service or 3) both!

To be quite frank- I love Havana Rumba. I mean LOVE it, but I have often found the service lacking. The food, however, is always fantastic, which is what keeps me going back. I just find sometimes that the place is way too busy, crowded and HOT. Is there not air conditioning there? Not to sound like a whiner, but I sometimes stick to the leather booths. Gross (or at least for my dinner companions).
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Re: Havana Rumba -- a change in expectations/experiences

by Brad Keeton » Fri May 22, 2009 4:12 pm

Jess T wrote: I just find sometimes that the place is way too busy, crowded and HOT. Is there not air conditioning there? Not to sound like a whiner, but I sometimes stick to the leather booths. Gross (or at least for my dinner companions).


Agreed, but isn't that just part of the Cuban restaurant experience? Try showing up at prime dinner time on a weekend with a large group on a HOT July day, and your only option is either wait 3 hours or sit outside. . .that sidewalk is HOT. . .
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Re: Havana Rumba -- a change in expectations/experiences

by David Lange » Fri May 22, 2009 4:47 pm

It's certainly interesting how "possessive" we become when it comes to our favorite restaurants. I know myself on this forum, I have been gulity of defending some of my favorite restaurants, and probably did not do so in a civil manner. But we have to remember that everything can not go perfectly everytime we may dine out. We certainly would like them to and probably expect it to happen. But we really need to face reality. Running the front end, the kitchen, and every other aspect of a restaurant takes true talent. Almost like a juggler. It is an ongoing feat to make sure one or more of the "pieces" does not take a tumble. Yet we expect a perfect performance everytime.

Take your particular occupation for an example. Are you at your best every minute of every day to your fellow employees, your customers or your vendors? I wish I could say that I was, but that is an impossibility. If you can truly say that you do, then you are truly a remarkable person. Yet that is what we expect on every visit, at every restaurant when we visit. But sometimes, things happen that can hamper that experience and it is out of everyone's control. And I feel we have to make allowance for that. I know it's our hard earned money that is involved, but it's certainly hard enough for restauranteurs today without all of us nit-picking over very inane measures.

I appreciate the support of our local restaurants that is given in this forum. We are really for the independants. I have had numerous conversations with individuals of all backgrounds regarding if certain restaurants are "in a favored position" on this forum. Whether that is true or not is debateable and really unimportant. What is however, is to realize that our independant restaurants need our support for the things they do, not our rants for the things they don't do.

So eat out often and enjoy yourselves.
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Re: Havana Rumba -- a change in expectations/experiences

by Becky M » Fri May 22, 2009 5:07 pm

David Lange wrote:It's certainly interesting how "possessive" we become when it comes to our favorite restaurants. I know myself on this forum, I have been gulity of defending some of my favorite restaurants, and probably did not do so in a civil manner. But we have to remember that everything can not go perfectly everytime we may dine out. We certainly would like them to and probably expect it to happen. But we really need to face reality. Running the front end, the kitchen, and every other aspect of a restaurant takes true talent. Almost like a juggler. It is an ongoing feat to make sure one or more of the "pieces" does not take a tumble. Yet we expect a perfect performance everytime.

Take your particular occupation for an example. Are you at your best every minute of every day to your fellow employees, your customers or your vendors? I wish I could say that I was, but that is an impossibility. If you can truly say that you do, then you are truly a remarkable person. Yet that is what we expect on every visit, at every restaurant when we visit. But sometimes, things happen that can hamper that experience and it is out of everyone's control. And I feel we have to make allowance for that. I know it's our hard earned money that is involved, but it's certainly hard enough for restauranteurs today without all of us nit-picking over very inane measures.


David, I do not know you, but must commend you on this post. It is very well put. As I was reading I am saying to myself, wow, this could be used in many aspects of our everyday lives. Right now I am overwhelmed with life, am juggling an upcoming birthday, painting the bathroom, expecting out-of-town guests next week, plus a myriad of other things. Your post let me realize: nothing is perfect, as much as we would like it to be. ...and there is nothing wrong with that....

Just a little thank you. Your post allowed me to get my breath back on this Friday afternoon.

Becky
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Re: Havana Rumba -- a change in expectations/experiences

by Fernando Martinez » Fri May 22, 2009 5:47 pm

Gary I'm sorry about your experience at H.R. I don't know what happen but I will look in to it, the menu says avocados because it's suppose to have a few slices, so once again I'm sorry and in respond to Will's statements that I haven't been involved with H.R since Mojito opened, I think you should get your facts again, I will love to know from where you got this facts, Just so you know to what extent I'm involved with H.R and the daily decisions, half of the people that work in the kitchen are members of my family, my sue chef (Yaniel Martinez) my cousin live in my basement. So once again how do you come up with something like that? I'm sick and tire of people that have no clue of what they are talking about making statements like that. First that I was selling to O'Charles, now that I'm not involved with the daily decisions at H.R.
Gary neither you or anybody should be afraid of complaining about any restaurant that they don’t have a good experience, good restaurant owners don't mind this, it's a good way to keep our staff and our self’s on the ball. Just my 2 cents.
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Re: Havana Rumba -- a change in expectations/experiences

by Will Gaines » Sat May 23, 2009 12:00 am

Fernando, I believe there has been a miscommunication. To be clear, I was only referring to the fact that you are not working on site at HR on a regular basis in a management capacity. The comment was meant to emphasize the point that your departure should not have affected this particular situation. I know that as a partner, you are very involved in the business and take any complaint logged on this forum very seriously. If you want further clarification please PM me and we can take it offline.
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Re: Havana Rumba -- a change in expectations/experiences

by AshleyChesman » Sat May 23, 2009 12:11 am

garyguthrie wrote:Two friends and I recently ate at Havana Rumba for what must be the 50th time and, at least to us, it seemed like the service and attention was starting to slide.
Small things like requests for "no tomatoes" on the Tostones con Pollo resulted in a gaggle of tomatoes and without any melted Monterey cheese; the Ensalada de Casa -- which is clearly identified in the menu as "Spring mix, tomatoes, cucumbers, avocadoes and queso blanco" came with a single pinky-sized sliver of avacado and, when questioned, the waitress came gnathair close to poking her finger in the salad and said, "See, there's some avocado".
When we complained at closing, the waitress said she would take off the cost of the Coca-Cola as reparation. Yeah. We had to ask for a manager who apologized (but defended the misnomer of "avocado piece" versus the "avocadoes" as listed in the menu) and gave us a gift certificate to offset our experience, but the questions still linger.
We always felt the service at HR was some of the most attentive in town and maybe this is a one-time low point, but it does raise subjective concerns. I'm not in the know about whether the change in ownership has created this slack -- I just know a few less people who are going to be double-checking how bad we really want to go there the next time.




I'm kinda glad when I see posts like this that I am no longer in the biz....And Will, I understand you wanting to defend one of your favorite places. Here's my take: I'm not a huge fan of HR....I am a VERY picky eater and find it hard to find something on the mneu that fits into my picky diet. I have been a few times, with friends and never really noticed exceptionally wonderful or exceptionally poor service. Having said that, I do have to agree with Will on the "pickiness" of this posting. By stating that the server said, "See, there's some avocado." makes me think that the initial complaint was more like "there's no avocado in this salad and the menu says there is" rather than, "There's not as much avocado as I had hoped for. May I please get some more on the side?" Had THAT been the case, and the server huffed and puffed, or said they were going to be an extra charge, or rolled her eyes or whatever, then I can see bringing it up....but otherwise, you have to understand that restaurants strive for consistency, but people do make mistakes.

Secondly, I hate tomatoes. I don't want them to touch my food, I dont' want to smell them, and I don't want to see them. Had my food come out with tomatoes, I would have sent it back. But, realize too, kitchen staff make the same things OVER and OVER again...they could do it in their sleep. It's habit. You have NO CLUE how many times I would look at a ticket that said "no romano cheese", repeat it in my head while I was topping with marinara, then sure enough, I would turn around and put romano cheese on it....creatures of habit; everyone's guilty of that.

Finally, I understand that restaurants (and other places) have off days. And it's extremely disappointing when you're hoping for the same great experience, but leave less than satisfied, BUT, to say that you're going to have to double-check before you go back....seriously? If this happened often, or if you had raw chicken, or hair in your food, or saw mice, I could see why you would have to rethink going back, but because you didn't get as much avocado as you'd like? I guess I've just learned not to sweat the small stuff....shit like that will give you wrinkles....
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Re: Havana Rumba -- a change in expectations/experiences

by Brad W » Sat May 23, 2009 3:19 pm

I'll just add this:

We went to HR last night for dinner, which was my 3rd visit to havana rumba. We arrived, were promptly seated and received great service.
I had the Lechon Asada, which was crazy delicious. My wife had the fried grouper...which was again...delicious. The calamari was great as well. My 3 year old even ate her grill cheese like a good girl.

Margaritas were good as well.

Fernando, whoever is in your kitchen, especially last night, be it your brother,cousin,etc...was ON POINT start to finish.

thanks for a great dining experience.
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