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Re: Forced "corporate dining" at UofL

by Dave Nelson » Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:27 pm

When I was at Johnson and Wales, my first on campus lunch was as follows.....
- 2 Krystal hamburgers
- 1 small bag doritos
- 1 Dr Pepper

Of course, this was via vending machine. It was just ironic to be at one of the top culinary schools in the country, and find yourself munching on that crap during your 1 hour break. I wish it would have been White Castles! :shock:
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Re: Forced "corporate dining" at UofL

by Mark R. » Sat Oct 11, 2008 9:40 pm

Ellen P wrote: Don't know who the new target students are? Out of state? Higher tuition?

Minorities!
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Re: Forced "corporate dining" at UofL

by Jayson L » Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:08 am

How was this ever approved? Outside of the fact that it is a plan clearly not in the best interest of the students, it shows that the decison makers are not working for the best interest of Louisville, as well. I wonder...if you go along with this plan; multiplied by four years of undergrad; will they award you a Doctorate upon completion?
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Re: Forced "corporate dining" at UofL

by Colin H » Sun Oct 12, 2008 12:25 pm

this makes me glad that I'm on the 5 year plan and not the 6 year plan. I can't believe they're actually forcing people to eat fast food, but it seems to me that all you have to do is claim that you're vegan and they let you out of the requirement... I know that worked back when I was a freshman for some people living on campus.
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Re: Forced "corporate dining" at UofL

by Kim H » Sun Oct 12, 2008 1:29 pm

This is one of the most ridiculous plans I've ever heard of, and if I were a UofL student, or paying parent, I would be absolutely outraged. I already am, and I'm not directly affected. This plan makes absolutely no sense, and is a tuition raise in a guise. Call it what it is! That would be easier to swallow, pardon my pun. I went to UK a hundred years ago, but we were able to CHOOSE our dining plan, including none at all. And if you ate at a university dining facility, and didn't use your dining card, you would pay cash. I'm sorry, but what UofL is attempting sounds like extortion to me.
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Re: Forced "corporate dining" at UofL

by Ray G. » Sun Oct 12, 2008 6:28 pm

Mark R. wrote:
Ellen P wrote: Don't know who the new target students are? Out of state? Higher tuition?

Minorities!


yeah? so?
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Re: Forced "corporate dining" at UofL

by Bryan Shepherd » Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:16 pm

This sounds a lot like what our government has just done to us.........without our consent???

You better get used to it.........
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Re: Forced "corporate dining" at UofL

by Sarita C » Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:40 pm

This is one of the most ridiculous plans I've ever heard of, and if I were a UofL student, or paying parent, I would be absolutely outraged. I already am, and I'm not directly affected. This plan makes absolutely no sense, and is a tuition raise in a guise.

My husband and I just about got down on our hands and knees and begged our daughter to go somewhere else last year as she was a graduating senior. She refused...and now lives 15 minutes from my front door on campus.

Yeah...and we are quite put out with all the fees.

Her first choice was Bellermine...we didn't think that we could swing it.
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Re: Forced "corporate dining" at UofL

by Doogy R » Sun Oct 12, 2008 10:05 pm

Bryan Shepherd wrote:This sounds a lot like what our government has just done to us.........without our consent???

You better get used to it.........


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Re: Forced "corporate dining" at UofL

by John Greenup » Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:50 am

When I was a UofL undergrad, during the mid-late 1970's, the on-campus dining options were quite limited vs. what's available today, and we typically took advantage of nearby off-campus venues (Masterson's, Cottage Inn, McD's, and the PC-infamous "Sambo's")....several years ago, I returned to UofL in pursuit of a mid-career law degree, and the only improvements that I noticed in food service were: 1) the dining facilities at the Cardinal Club, and 2) the addition of QSR outlets such as Subway's and Wendy's.....the university-run dining facilties remained mediocre at best, and to now compel ALL students to pay for a meal plan sounds like little more than a revenue-raising tactic...
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Re: Forced "corporate dining" at UofL

by Matthew D » Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:11 am

John Greenup wrote:.....the university-run dining facilties remained mediocre at best, and to now compel ALL students to pay for a meal plan sounds like little more than a revenue-raising tactic...


http://php.louisville.edu/advancement/ocm/news/release.php?relid=1057

The requirement goes hand-in-hand with the expansion of the dining options.

I just wanted to fill-out the background, in case it was not clear in the Cardinal article. The background does not change the fact that this is a revenue-raising tactic.

There's a growing Facebook group opposed to this measure. I'm not really sure if they have much planned in terms of protest, though.
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Re: Forced "corporate dining" at UofL

by Robin Garr » Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:57 am

Matthew D wrote:There's a growing Facebook group opposed to this measure. I'm not really sure if they have much planned in terms of protest, though.

Link? I'll join, and post it to the LouisvilleHotBytes Facebook group.
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Re: Forced "corporate dining" at UofL

by Ben S. » Mon Oct 13, 2008 12:43 pm

The sad thing about this is the obvious disingenuity of the rationale. 'You spend $6 a day here anyway, right?' Hell no. I rarely ate on campus even when I was a freshman with a meal card because the choices are always inferior. There are lots of places to eat nearby, some of them even good. Clearly the only reason for this is that the 'education bubble' hasn't burst and the University is backdooring additional profits this way to keep from having double digit increases in tuition. Unfortunately will continue to rise until the demand drops, which due to credit crunch will likely be next semester.

By the way, I wouldn't want to be forced to spend $ annually even if Lilly's and Jack Fry's were on the plan. Forced annual spending is another hidden charge, that's all.
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Re: Forced "corporate dining" at UofL

by Matthew D » Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:42 pm

Ben S. wrote:Unfortunately will continue to rise until the demand drops, which due to credit crunch will likely be next semester.


It will be interesting to see how the economic downturn hurts enrollment. Historically, private universities are hurt the most by economic hard times, as more and more students choose to attend local, in-state options. Community colleges see attendance rise as a result of people looking for the best bargain. State schools lose people down the ladder (to community colleges) but also gain students who might have looked elsewhere during better financial times.

More and more students, though, are going in debt for education so the availability of loans, as you hint at, could change these trends. I know loans are disbursed over two semesters, but I don't know what the likelihood is of losing loan money after receiving the 1st semester installment.

FWIW, Louisville had its biggest freshman class ever this year. And I'd expect very little dropoff next year regardless of the economy. Education becomes even more valued when the economy gets tough.
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Re: Forced "corporate dining" at UofL

by Matthew D » Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:44 pm

Robin Garr wrote:
Matthew D wrote:There's a growing Facebook group opposed to this measure. I'm not really sure if they have much planned in terms of protest, though.


Link? I'll join, and post it to the LouisvilleHotBytes Facebook group.


http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=38629648614
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