RonnieD
Foodie
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Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:09 pm
The rolling acres of Henry County
Adriel Gray wrote:
I would be ticked if I went to a bar and had to get frisked to leave though. Just saying.
Andrew Mellman wrote:On the other hand, if undercovers had viewed underage drinking, or especially if they had viewed drug deals, and they had descriptions of the individuals, then it's easy to make a case that the police search was in fact legitimate as (especially for drug deals in the bar) they were in fear of possible danger.
That is why I said you need a court appearance . . . you cannot make blanket comments that this is illegal without knowing all the facts involved!
Steve Kluesner wrote:If you are not doing anything wrong, why worry about being searched?????? I am sorry, I think you also forfeit your rights when you hang out in a place like that.....there may be a few people who get there rights violated but it is time to clean up this country.
Steve H wrote:I'm forced to disagree. Americans do not forfeit their rights when they go to a particular bar. That's just crazy talk.
Robin Garr wrote:Steve H wrote:I'm forced to disagree. Americans do not forfeit their rights when they go to a particular bar. That's just crazy talk.
In the interest of a civil forum, I'll exclude the "crazy talk" part, but I'm on board with all the rest of this. When we give up our rights in the name of security, the bad guys have won.
Mark R. wrote:if you don't have anything to hide why should you worry about being searched so that something somebody is trying to hide can be discovered?
RonnieD
Foodie
1931
Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:09 pm
The rolling acres of Henry County
Bill P wrote:The difference between airport/government building searches and warrant less searches is that I implicitly give my consent to be searched by entering those types of "secure" premises.
Bill P wrote:The difference between airport/government building searches and warrant less searches is that I implicitly give my consent to be searched by entering those types of "secure" premises. I do not give my consent to be searched when I enter a bar or Trader Joe's or my favorite restaurant, or my home. See how that pesky "consent" thing, implied or otherwise, makes a difference?. So if we're gonna buy that if "they didn't have something to hide" argument, then I suppose it is not a long leap until we abolish judges and juries, since if they didn't do anything wrong, they never would have been arrested.
That type of logic is beyond my comprehension and frankly terrifies me and I'm not prone to being a fraidy cat.
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