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Re: Metro Schools closed tomorrow ...

by RonnieD » Mon Jan 06, 2014 3:23 pm

Steve P, you have got to stop agreeing with me. You are really scaring me. :shock: :P :lol:
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Re: Metro Schools closed tomorrow ...

by Kyle L » Mon Jan 06, 2014 3:28 pm

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RonnieD wrote:I guess I'm the only person in the city that had a perfectly normal morning.


Things were peachy here in the hinterlands this morning...a wee dusting of snow and a little nip in the air but nothing a fleece jacket and a windproof shell couldn't handle. Overall more or less another non-event.


Nip in the air? On my way to work it was 1F and a wind chill well below freezing. That's not a nip in the air, this is Frostbite.
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Re: Metro Schools closed tomorrow ...

by Jeff Cavanaugh » Mon Jan 06, 2014 3:31 pm

RonnieD wrote:Yeah, I don't buy it. Maybe closing the city because it's cold is a thing, but I've never seen the like.

I guess I'm the only person in the city that had a perfectly normal morning. No ice on my car nor driveway. Perfectly normal commute (a little smoother thanks to Chicken Little), no ice on roads (plenty of salt though, literally piles). Was it cold? Sure. I have a coat. Got to work safe and sound.

But while you folks are at it, I'm selling rocks that keep tigers away. Only $25 each. Guaranteed to work.


I haven't seen any evidence that they closed the city, aside from JCPS. My office is open and operating as normal.

As for JCPS, it really isn't unreasonable for them to cancel school today. A significant portion of kids in the system have to walk to the bus and wait for it out in the cold. An appreciable fraction of those kids probably don't have proper cold-weather clothing. How many of them would have to get frostbite before we said it was worth closing school?
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Re: Metro Schools closed tomorrow ...

by Suzi Bernert » Mon Jan 06, 2014 5:25 pm

I normally cringe when they close school for a dusting of snow - of course I went to school in white out conditions, butt deep in snow, uphill in PA. The only time we were kept home by our mom was when they did not cancel was on a day that it was 10 below. Mom said we would "freeze our ears off". Now that I have spent a few winters in EMS, I do respect this decision of JCPS and the other school districts. Even if parents have the means to properly put their kids in warm layers (many do not), children will take off the scarves and hats 1st chance they get. Younger children (and older folk) do not have good thermal regulation and can become hypothermic quickly. With the windchill, frostbite can occur within 10 minutes or less. Most kids in this area do not have boots, just tennis shoes. When I was on the ambulance, I made many early morning runs to schools on cold winter days to evaluate for frostbite, it is more common than you think.

As for the rest the cancellations, I know most of the population here is not prepared for any winter weather, so I guess the bosses figured the employees would call in anyway! :roll:
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Re: Metro Schools closed tomorrow ...

by Steve P » Mon Jan 06, 2014 5:29 pm

Kyle L wrote:
Steve P wrote:
RonnieD wrote:I guess I'm the only person in the city that had a perfectly normal morning.


Things were peachy here in the hinterlands this morning...a wee dusting of snow and a little nip in the air but nothing a fleece jacket and a windproof shell couldn't handle. Overall more or less another non-event.


Nip in the air? On my way to work it was 1F and a wind chill well below freezing. That's not a nip in the air, this is Frostbite.


<shrugs>.... :? ...I dunno Kyle, I guess it's 3 parts perspective and 1 part preparation. Having lived in MN for almost 20 years, I likely have a different perspective of cold weather than some folks around here....Doesn't make me right and you wrong, it's just what we're used to. Weather that may be cause for some folks to huddle around the fire is just another day in the deer stand for others. The other thing is preparation, No one in my family, even my 26 y.o. daughter, ever starts their car without the appropriate level of practical emergency clothing/equipment stashed in the trunk or behind the seat...So between perspective and preparation I personally don't give weather like this much thought.
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Re: Metro Schools closed again Tuesday ...

by Robin Garr » Mon Jan 06, 2014 5:52 pm

Already announced it, and yes, it's the wind chill and danger of frostbite and not all kids being as well off as most of us and able to afford LL Bean or Land's End parkas and that kind of thing. :(
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Re: Metro Schools closed tomorrow ...

by Alanna H » Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:22 pm

My son and I bundled up in layers and walked 3 doors down to the convenience store. I said that the wind felt like a hundred needles poking my face. He thought it was 'no big deal'. Kids!!! :P
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Re: Metro Schools closed tomorrow ...

by Ed Vermillion » Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:56 pm

Who commenting on this thread don't have school age children?
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Re: Metro Schools closed tomorrow ...

by RonnieD » Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:24 pm

Ed Vermillion wrote:Who commenting on this thread don't have school age children?


Straw Man qualifier. Not having kids is not an indicator of the ability to understand the need for children to be safe and warm. For shame, Ed, I expect better of you. :P (Seamus may only be 1, but I have no interest in seeing him frozen)


I still don't buy it. It was this cold when I was a kid out in the country and we still went to school. We just prepared for the like, and I can't believe I'm saying this, Steve P said above. We were dirt poor, but we dressed in layers and waited for the bus in the house until near time for it to show, then we hustled down the lane to get on it.

I guess we can no longer expect people to have common sense and be well prepared. Better go ahead and call off school until March, just in case.
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Re: Metro Schools closed tomorrow ...

by Ed Vermillion » Mon Jan 06, 2014 11:29 pm

RonnieD wrote:
Ed Vermillion wrote:Who commenting on this thread don't have school age children?


Straw Man qualifier. Not having kids is not an indicator of the ability to understand the need for children to be safe and warm. For shame, Ed, I expect better of you. :P (Seamus may only be 1, but I have no interest in seeing him frozen)


I still don't buy it. It was this cold when I was a kid out in the country and we still went to school. We just prepared for the like, and I can't believe I'm saying this, Steve P said above. We were dirt poor, but we dressed in layers and waited for the bus in the house until near time for it to show, then we hustled down the lane to get on it.

I guess we can no longer expect people to have common sense and be well prepared. Better go ahead and call off school until March, just in case.


Just trying to put a handle on where all the hostility comes from these days.
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Re: Metro Schools closed tomorrow ...

by Alanna H » Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:23 am

Unfortunately, the buses don't always come close to your house anymore. We live on Bardstown Rd, but my son's bus stop is on Willow (per the JCPS bus site, .27 miles away). There is no waiting in the house until the bus comes. He's supposed to be at the stop 5 minutes before the bus is scheduled but there's no telling how late the bus might show up. If he spends 5-10 minutes walking, gets there 5 minutes early, and the bus is five minutes late, then he's already been in sub-zero/near sub-zero temps for at least 15 minutes. Bundled up or not, I'm not really okay with that.
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Re: Metro Schools closed tomorrow ...

by Steve P » Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:33 am

Ed Vermillion wrote:Just trying to put a handle on where all the hostility comes from these days.


Ed, I don't perceive any hostility here. Perhaps a bit of head shaking on the part of some but hostility, no. Personally, I saw my kids off to the bus regularly (no, mommy and daddy didn't tote them to school every day as is so common now) when it was way-WAY worse than it was around here today. Like Ronnie said, we dressed them in layers (and put a healthy dose of the fear of God in them as to what happens to children who ignore their parents instructions). Later on when they were in High School and driving (LONG before every 10 year old in the world had a cell phone) we made sure their cars were in working order, and they carried an emergency kit with them at all time...a habit my my daughter still exhibits these days. I guess my perspective is that if my (then) 17 year old daughter can get off work at the mall at 9pm, dig her car out of the snow with a shovel and then jump it off (with the help of a friend) because the battery died in 10 below temps then kids these days can hack a little wind chill. Again, no hostility...Just perspective.

BTW...The biggest problem I had with my girls and school/weather was telling them NO....You can't wear shorts to school the first day the outside temp hits 40 degrees (usually early March).
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Re: Metro Schools closed tomorrow ...

by RonnieD » Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:46 am

No hostility, I'm just not accustomed to the sensibilities of the city (despite living here for 20 years). Closing school for cold weather just seems bizarre to me, but apparently everyone is doing it. We must have either been tougher or dumber back in the day.
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Re: Metro Schools closed tomorrow ...

by Carla G » Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:02 am

Aww come on Ronnie! Never give us two options to choose from like that! And actually I think the answer is we were more naive. So far I think Suzi has given the most concise and accurate reply. When you deal with kids, on any level wether it's kids making decisions or parents making ( or not making) decisions for their kids, logic has nothing to do with it. It would seem we would have evolved enough to act logically but some parents seldom do and kids almost never do. And in this case it would be the kids that pay for the consequences with the loss of fingers or toes or ruined noses. Little kids, especially here in the south , have no experience and therefore no concept of frostbite and how very quickly it can happen. And I know many adults that simply don't get it either. Steve P and his family know enough to not just bundle up but cover all exposed skin. I bet they saw the consequences of not doing so first hand, at least once. But down here few of us even know anyone that has suffered from frostbite or even seen those scary dull gray/white patches on faces. Nation wide schools are being closed. Are they ALL hysterics or maybe they have experienced something you haven't?
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Re: Metro Schools closed tomorrow ...

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