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by Heather Y » Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:23 pm

My brothers wife is Thai, and I mean Thai.... (her mother went out and bought a toilet just for my brothers first visit.) My Sister in law was educated in England, and then came to the States and met my bro.

Sooo, they live in Manhattan and have a daughter. They also have a nephew.
A while back during a visit home (NY), we went to the Thai rest. where my sister in law worked. (near court houses in China town). We Americans ordered the "safe" stuff i.e. pad thai, curry etc. My SIL ordered for her nephew... when the food arrived he wanted to eat our noodles.... and not his food.... why.....?

She ordered a delicious dish of BULL TESTICLES!!!!!!

Is that on any menu here in Louisville? If so, I would like to go to that restaurant. To me that would say authentic. Anthony Bourdain would be proud to eat Bull testicles here in the 'Ville.

Also, when Indian cuisine first began to arrive in Louisville, I remember the waiters telling me that Tandoori chicken was the biggest seller.
Why?, it is just chicken and spices cooked in a Tandoori oven , it was safe.

There isn't a palate for authentic foods here (and in a lot of American cities.) The menu's do exist but if the owner had to rely of the numbers of people who would eat from that menu... he/she would go bankrupt.

That is why all ethnic restaurants menus are Americanized. To serve those who will not venture into the unknown.
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by Aaron Newton » Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:11 pm

Hmm. I guess I just don't subscribe to the idea that just because something is suitable to the american palate, and therefore safe, that it doesn't count as authentic. As far as I can tell, there is still no lack of authentic dishes at most of the Thai restaurants around Louisville. Pad thai and curry, while infinitely more acceptable to american tastes than bull testicles, are no less authentic. Unless they are leaving out major characteristic ingredients, which I have never found to be the case.
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by Ron Johnson » Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:51 am

Heather, if you want to eat some crazy stuff go to Kebab Cafe in Astoria, Queens next trip up. Ali will cook you animal parts you didn't know existed.

Bourdain has an episode of his how where he goes to see Ali. It is a great place, and you don't have to get the brains and lamb hearts if you don't want to.
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by Heather Y » Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:10 pm

Thanks Ron,

I will be there during the Christmas season. I plan to look up the ethnic food street vendors while I am it.


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by Aaron M. Renn » Sat Nov 17, 2007 6:18 pm

I really hate dining out in New York generally. Firstly, you do need to know where you are going. You can walk into a random small establishment, but odds are it will be terrible. There are a large number of these type of lousy restaurants, even in Manhattan.

If you go to one of the more upscale places, you face stratospheric prices and a complete disdain for your business. If you aren't a celebrity, or don't cram a wad of $20's into the maitre d's hands, you can be left cooling your heels for well over an hour past your reservation time at all too many places.

It just goes along with the generally sleazy way that almost everything in New York works.
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by Robin Garr » Sat Nov 17, 2007 6:25 pm

Aaron M. Renn wrote:I really hate dining out in New York generally. Firstly, you do need to know where you are going. You can walk into a random small establishment, but odds are it will be terrible. There are a large number of these type of lousy restaurants, even in Manhattan.

If you go to one of the more upscale places, you face stratospheric prices and a complete disdain for your business. If you aren't a celebrity, or don't cram a wad of $20's into the maitre d's hands, you can be left cooling your heels for well over an hour past your reservation time at all too many places.

It just goes along with the generally sleazy way that almost everything in New York works.


You are really basing your opinion on only a slim fraction of NYC restaurants, Aaron, mostly in the narrow stretch of Midtown where tourists go. You can eat like a fool in the Outer Boroughs and, using just a little foodie common sense, rarely if ever overspend, get a bad meal, or be treated poorly.
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by Ron Johnson » Sun Nov 18, 2007 12:18 pm

Aaron M. Renn wrote:I really hate dining out in New York generally. Firstly, you do need to know where you are going. You can walk into a random small establishment, but odds are it will be terrible. There are a large number of these type of lousy restaurants, even in Manhattan.

If you go to one of the more upscale places, you face stratospheric prices and a complete disdain for your business. If you aren't a celebrity, or don't cram a wad of $20's into the maitre d's hands, you can be left cooling your heels for well over an hour past your reservation time at all too many places.

It just goes along with the generally sleazy way that almost everything in New York works.


That's a shame. You are missing out on one the greatest dining cities in the world. From the Little Italy on Arthur Avenue in the Bronx to the latin american street food vendors at the Red Hook Ballfields in Brooklyn, NYC is full of insanely good food, most of it for insanely cheap prices. I like the fried dumplings on Moscow street that are 5 for $1, tne sable at Russ & Daughters, the burger at the Shake Shack, and on and on and on. The places you describe exist, but to hit only those places you have stay in a relatively small section of Midtown and the UES.

Next time you go, drop me a line and I will steer you to some places that will leave you with a very different impression.
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by Joel Halblieb » Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:51 pm

no truly good pizza....

I have to question that comment. If the only style you are talking about NY style, you know the ones with coal fired ovens from the 30's and crust several millimeters thick. Yes we can not compare. Now if we are talking about a good Chicago Pie I think we have got that covered several times over. Just me 2cents.
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by Ron Johnson » Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:13 am

Joel Halblieb wrote:no truly good pizza....

I have to question that comment. If the only style you are talking about NY style, you know the ones with coal fired ovens from the 30's and crust several millimeters thick. Yes we can not compare. Now if we are talking about a good Chicago Pie I think we have got that covered several times over. Just me 2cents.


Who else does Chicago pie in the 'ville other than Windy City?
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by Heather Y » Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:50 am

UNO?
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by Ron Johnson » Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:57 am

There's an UNO left in Louisville? I had no idea. I thought they all closed.
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by John Hagan » Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:06 am

UNO is okay. Most folks I know from Chicago considered this to be tourist pizza, along with a place you hear about called Giordanos. Some people think all Chicago pizza is deep dish,its not.There is some really good deep dish up there though, about four inches thick you eat with knife and fork,or better yet cold in the morning with your hands. Most Chicago pizza has a thin almost cracker like crust not the bread like crust I find here in KY. Also living in Chicago for over thirty years I never heard anyone call a pizza a pie,that seems like a NY thing.
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by Ron Johnson » Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:15 am

Who makes the deep dish, double crust pizza in Chicago that is not tourist pizza? Uno, Due, Giordano's all seem pretty touristy to me.
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by Heather Y » Mon Nov 19, 2007 11:28 am

I don't REALLY know Ron, I remember there was one at a time.

Being from NY I am a pizza snob, so I do not eat deep dish.

Uno was the only thing I could think of.....maybe I should have sat this one out!!


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