Jeff Ruby does what he wants

wow. i sense much anger in you, young jedi. get mad at me all you want. call me an ass-faced douche-hole. whatever. but do yourself a favor and never threaten a persons ability to make a living. that is crossing a line that should never be crossed, especially in response to a post on an internet forum, lol.

take yourself and your views just a little less seriously and you might actually enjoy life more.

racist.

From what I have been reading, Jeff spends a lot of time and money on victim rights. He really gets fired up on this stuff. I like it. And I might add, there are racist on the inside of the Watterson too. That was a low blow, even if it was aimed at Steve P.

[Robin Garr]

From what I have been reading, Jeff spends a lot of time and money on victim rights. He really gets fired up on this stuff. I like it. And I might add, there are racist on the inside of the Watterson too. That was a low blow, even if it was aimed at Steve P.

Will, I don't think either you or Steve understood my point: Before you declare somebody praiseworthy for standing up for a cause, it helps to know what that cause is. Since Steve seems t think that standing up for a principle is good, I offered him an example of a principle that some might not wish to praise. <shrug>

Since Steve seems to have decided that presenting the public persona of a redneck bully is funny - I doubt that it's really true of him, but he seems to like to play the role for laughs - I just had a little fun bullying him back. Probably not something for me to be proud of. But before you get on me for "calling him a racist," please go back and trace the discussion.

Enough with the Penis measuring and lets all go back to foodism instead.

Strikes me as a man who stands up for his principles. I admire that.

How do you feel about the Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan when he stands up for his? Just curious. I hear he's popular out in Garag ... aw, I just can't say it.

Wow Robin. I knew you were an out of touch left-wing extremist, but to infer Steve is a racist is out of line.

I don't know Steve and by his posts think we would disagree on many issues. But like real men, we would debate an issue over a smoker while getting drunk. This is in sharp contrast to your method of being a liberal pussy and inferring he is a racist over the internet.

This really pissed me off. You are such a judgmental, holy than thou asshole.

If I don't see an apology, then Its time to go to the Tribune and Leo and discuss how comfortable they are employing a food critic who makes money selling advertising to restaurants he reviews.

Not that Robin needs me defending him, I just call BS when and as I see it.

uhm, no. His comment didn't indicate that he inferred that Steve was a racist......unless you're just really reaching.




Secondly, your implying that there is a conflict of interest with this site's advertising and that the owner of the site being a food critic is cancelled out by the fact that you're a registered member. More members, the more LHB appeals to advertisers.

Oh yeah, Lighten up Francis.

And here I am just wondering if J Dylan knows the difference between infer and imply.

J,
Maybe you are not familiar with how advertising works. As a Marketing Director, I'm not aware of any local or national media outlet with a food critic that does not accept advertising from restaurants. ( there may be some but it's a very small minority). The Courier, Velocity, Chicago Tribune, New York Times et al all take ads from their restaurant community. Ad revenue, more than subscriptions, is necessary to keep these businesses (and Hotbytes) in the black .

I place ads for my non-food corporate business, and standard practice is to separate the functions of Ad sales from Editorial so the decisions on editorial are separated from advertisers. That's what Hotbytes does too- I'm not getting what your issue is. Additionally, as a long-time Forum member, I've not seen any potential conflict of interest in reviews. Many, many places that received very high reviews have never placed ads on this forum. if there was a correlation, I'd expect to see a lot more local restaurant ads on this site .
Deb

Strikes me as a man who stands up for his principles. I admire that.

How do you feel about the Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan when he stands up for his? Just curious. I hear he's popular out in Garag ... aw, I just can't say it.

Sorry Robin, but that's a HUGE stretch. Ruby is known for standing up against murderers. He refused to seat OJ, and now mouths something nasty to Peterson. He calls neither one into a newspaper or tv, although others do and he does not deny it. I think Steve P is right about him standing up for his principles, and your dig was uncalled for in this particular instance.

I'll admit that he does not reject the publicity, but he could have called newspeople over when he did it and he did not do that. He may be misguided, but he IS doing what he thinks he should do. And, since the only times he's done it are for Scott Petersen and OJ Simpson, I don't know who among us would disagree with the sentiments!

I don't supposed that whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing comes into play here at all, does it?

Strikes me as a man who stands up for his principles. I admire that.

How do you feel about the Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan when he stands up for his? Just curious. I hear he's popular out in Garag ... aw, I just can't say it.

Sorry Robin, but that's a HUGE stretch. Ruby is known for standing up against murderers. He refused to seat OJ, and now mouths something nasty to Peterson. He calls neither one into a newspaper or tv, although others do and he does not deny it. I think Steve P is right about him standing up for his principles, and your dig was uncalled for in this particular instance.

I'll admit that he does not reject the publicity, but he could have called newspeople over when he did it and he did not do that. He may be misguided, but he IS doing what he thinks he should do. And, since the only times he's done it are for Scott Petersen and OJ Simpson, I don't know who among us would disagree with the sentiments!

Here is an excerpt from the link in the OP's first post.

“I denied it. I said, ‘Who are you going to believe, me or Drew Peterson?’ ” Ruby said. “It was the first time in [Peterson’s] life he wasn’t lying. I said it.”
Ruby traveled to Joliet for the trial after getting publicity by placing ads criticizing Peterson’s defense team in Sun-Times Media newspapers. He was in the courthouse for the trial all day Tuesday and Wednesday.

It seems to me that Ruby, by his own admission, is a liar and that he very much “is” seeking publicity for himself. As far as his principles are concerned.

Ruby is rich and is able to afford to spout his opinions with far more exposition than the average person.

That does not really qualify as a principle.

He flew out there to cause trouble. He had no business being there in the first place. He WAS seeking publicity and he got it. This whole standing up for his beliefs nonsense is just that. He has a problem with his mouth which is what led me to make the aforementioned tool comment.

If he really wants publicity I think he would make a great spokesman for Summer's Eve.

Though his efforts can charitably be described as scatter-shot, it doesn't seem like he's in it just for the publicity to me.

Maybe I'm still not cynical enough. If I just increase my HotBytes forum study time, I can probably get there... the perfect balance of irony and cynicism!

From what I have been reading, Jeff spends a lot of time and money on victim rights. He really gets fired up on this stuff. I like it. And I might add, there are racist on the inside of the Watterson too. That was a low blow, even if it was aimed at Steve P.

Will, I don't think either you or Steve understood my point: Before you declare somebody praiseworthy for standing up for a cause, it helps to know what that cause is. Since Steve seems t think that standing up for a principle is good, I offered him an example of a principle that some might not wish to praise. <shrug>

Since Steve seems to have decided that presenting the public persona of a redneck bully is funny - I doubt that it's really true of him, but he seems to like to play the role for laughs - I just had a little fun bullying him back. Probably not something for me to be proud of. But before you get on me for "calling him a racist," please go back and trace the discussion.

I traced the conversation and it seems that Steve knew what the cause was. Jeff spends hundreds of thousands of dollars on helping victims. He has a personal stake in it. It is more than just publicity. The more I read about him the more I like him. I have seen the interviews that Drew Peterson has given and he is a very reprehensible person. Innocent until provn guilty it his great country of ours, true but this guys is a jerk. I bet the victims that Jeff has helped praise his name nightly.

[Robin Garr]

I traced the conversation and it seems that Steve knew what the cause was. Jeff spends hundreds of thousands of dollars on helping victims. He has a personal stake in it. It is more than just publicity. The more I read about him the more I like him. I have seen the interviews that Drew Peterson has given and he is a very reprehensible person. Innocent until provn guilty it his great country of ours, true but this guys is a jerk. I bet the victims that Jeff has helped praise his name nightly.

No argument about Drew, Will.

What he did seems fairly stupid to me. His aid to victim groups notwithstanding, courtroooms and the justice system should be treated with seriousness and respect..... not some place to act out third-grade antics. I don't know much of anything about the defendent.... but intimidating or otherwise antagonizing defendents, witnesses, lawyers, etc in the middle of a murder trial is just plain idiotic.