Highland Coffee Eclipsed

hate to open the whole "chik fil-a can of worms", but uo was recently voted one of the top five worst companies in america regarding gay rights. it's kind of sad that most of their target audience are young people that probably have no idea of their political agenda.

p.s. chik fil-a was named numero uno! lol

hate to open the whole "chik fil-a can of worms", but uo was recently voted one of the top five worst companies in america regarding gay rights. it's kind of sad that most of their target audience are young people that probably have no idea of their political agenda.

p.s. chik fil-a was named numero uno! lol

While your post may show a glimpse into the corporate heart of UO I don't believe it belongs in this thread. While people may not support so will the company's business orientations they have to realize that a business can run itself however they want to as long as they don't do anything illegal. Customers can make their own decisions as to whether they become patrons of a business.

[Robin Garr]

While people may not support so will the company's business orientations they have to realize that a business can run itself however they want to as long as they don't do anything illegal. Customers can make their own decisions as to whether they become patrons of a business.

Mark, that is the precise argument that businesses in the South used to deny access to blacks for more than 100 years until the Civil Rights Act of 1962 finally banned racial barriers in public accommodations. I'd like to believe that most Americans are over that line of thinking about equal rights and access now.

Customers can make their own decisions as to whether they become patrons of a business.

Before I patronize a business, whether local or a chain, I like to be informed as to that business's practices. Hence, posts like Mark Gilley's are welcome to me. There's something a bit off in insisting that people shouldn't know about a company's practices, values, and charitable donations -- no matter what side of the political fence they happen to be on.

My theory is that it is Karma that caused them to lose the sign. Sorry, but not commenting publicly any further.

[Robin Garr]

My theory is that it is Karma that caused them to lose the sign. Sorry, but not commenting publicly any further.

Perhaps it would have been better not to raise the issue, then?

While people may not support so will the company's business orientations they have to realize that a business can run itself however they want to as long as they don't do anything illegal. Customers can make their own decisions as to whether they become patrons of a business.

Mark, that is the precise argument that businesses in the South used to deny access to blacks for more than 100 years until the Civil Rights Act of 1962 finally banned racial barriers in public accommodations. I'd like to believe that most Americans are over that line of thinking about equal rights and access now.

That's why I brought up anything illegal in my post. As long as a business does nothing illegal they can operate however they want to. Many people don't like the fact that CF is closed on Sundays but that's their right and something they believe in being Christians. They're willing to take the lumps for this but at least they stick to their guns. I respect any business who doesn't change their business model to calm certain segments of the market and instead just accept that as part of business! Granted everyone here is pretty open it in their way of thinking but not everybody in America (or Louisville for that matter) is. This forum doesn't need to become a social conscience of Louisville.

My theory is that it is Karma that caused them to lose the sign. Sorry, but not commenting publicly any further.

Perhaps it would have been better not to raise the issue, then?

No comment...haha....

[Robin Garr]

That's why I brought up anything illegal in my post. As long as a business does nothing illegal they can operate however they want to.

But Mark, that's exactly the situation that prevailed until the U.S. finally made racial segregation illegal, and that didn't happen for restaurants until 1962. Are you saying that made it right?

This forum doesn't need to become a social conscience of Louisville.

Well, I think Joel said it well: Frankly, I would like to know it when a restaurant's management - or that of any other business - has a public record of discrimination or similar behavior. It makes a difference to me, and I'm entirely willing to have it on the forum.

That's why I brought up anything illegal in my post. As long as a business does nothing illegal they can operate however they want to. .

It may not be illegal, however to a lot of people it is distasteful. That is certainly a good reason not to patronize a business and to publicize this.

My theory is that it is Karma that caused them to lose the sign. Sorry, but not commenting publicly any further.

Perhaps it would have been better not to raise the issue, then?

No comment...haha....

You made a snide comment that implies something negative and refuse to spell it out. Not good.

hate to open the whole "chik fil-a can of worms", but uo was recently voted one of the top five worst companies in america regarding gay rights. it's kind of sad that most of their target audience are young people that probably have no idea of their political agenda.

p.s. chik fil-a was named numero uno! lol

While your post may show a glimpse into the corporate heart of UO I don't believe it belongs in this thread. While people may not support so will the company's business orientations they have to realize that a business can run itself however they want to as long as they don't do anything illegal. Customers can make their own decisions as to whether they become patrons of a business.

Mark,
I think part of the point that Mark Gilley was making is that UO corporate leadership is anti- gay rights, when the majority of their target market- youth- are shown to be pro- gay rights.. To your point, they've done nothing illegal, but some of us feel it's appropriate to spread the word on their practices. Then their target clients can make their own decision in an educated way.

Deb

"I think that's a point here. UO is exhibiting the kind of greed-trumps-all corporate behavior that prompts many of us to prefer the neighborhood style of local business that has long made the Highlands special. If UO isn't willing to act like a neighbor, it's hard for me to see why we should welcome them, or spend our money there, or encourage our friends to give them any business."

"Well, I think Joel said it well: Frankly, I would like to know it when a restaurant's management - or that of any other business - has a public record of discrimination or similar behavior. It makes a difference to me, and I'm entirely willing to have it on the forum."

Robin..Although I disagree, I respect you since your actions back up your words.

Or maybe not..nice Urban Outfitters add on your website. Hypocrite.

And I am not interested in how you have no control of what Google Adds displays. Bottom line...you profit off what you act like you are morally against.

So per Robin's own advice, please boycott Louisville Hotbytes and all it's advertisers and all the local restaurants that post here, if you support Gay Rights.

I can't wait to put on my UO shorts and shirt tomorrow and hit a chain restaurant for lunch. I think I'll read the Courier-Journal will I wait for my food to arrive.

[Robin Garr]

Or maybe not..nice Urban Outfitters add on your website. Hypocrite.

And I am not interested in how you have no control of what Google Adds displays. Bottom line...you profit off what you act like you are morally against.

Trent, this is your fourth post here. You don't know enough about this place to rant like that. And you certainly wouldn't have the cojones to talk like that to my face.

In point of fact, I do have control. I'll put an ad block on Urban Outfitters now that I know it's there, because I do wish to be consistent.

Now please tell me why I shouldn't go ahead and ban you, too.

Mark,
I think part of the point that Mark Gilley was making is that UO corporate leadership is anti- gay rights, when the majority of their target market- youth- are shown to be pro- gay rights.. To your point, they've done nothing illegal, but some of us feel it's appropriate to spread the word on their practices. Then their target clients can make their own decision in an educated way.
Deb

+1!

My wife and I pay attention to information about the practices and political donations of businesses and as much as possible direct our discretionary $ accordingly. We're just doing our part to ensure that, as we see it, the free market works for more good and less evil.