Attention food truck vendors

If so then I think that makes the 3rd weekend they've been there which is more than 14 days. I didn't know if they'd have to move to another spot.

The rule does not offer protection for brick and mortar establishments. It allows a food truck to set up 14 days with owner of property permission of course. Then 30 days later you can set up again for 14 days? How is that protecting the brick and mortar. If an established restaurant didn't want the competition of a food truck they could very simply let the owner of the property know that they don't want us there and wa la no permission to set up, problem sovled. In our situation we pay rent for a little piece of asphalt whethewr we are there or not. Bottom line is the fourteen day rule needs to be stricken from the books. I just have no clue as to how to go about getting it changed,

I wonder if the fact that you are paying for the space makes any difference? Or if you actually owned it? It seems like it would be very different than just setting up someplace. It seems like it should basically put you in the same category as a restaurant! I'm sure the regulators don't see it that way but by using common sense (I know politicians don't have any) you would think that would put you in a different category especially since you lease it all the time.

The rule does not offer protection for brick and mortar establishments. It allows a food truck to set up 14 days with owner of property permission of course. Then 30 days later you can set up again for 14 days? How is that protecting the brick and mortar. If an established restaurant didn't want the competition of a food truck they could very simply let the owner of the property know that they don't want us there and wa la no permission to set up, problem sovled. In our situation we pay rent for a little piece of asphalt whethewr we are there or not. Bottom line is the fourteen day rule needs to be stricken from the books. I just have no clue as to how to go about getting it changed,

I'm pretty sure you're technically not supposed to set up within 250 ft. of another restaurant.

Yes we are here in front of coxs for the final day. We are moving tomorrow, across the street hopefully. Just waiting on a call back from the owner.

This sounds more like a city ordinance issue. Has anybody confirmed it's a state regulation going on a wild goose chase?

I'm 99% sure its a state law. The way I understand it is the good people in Frankfort don't take well to "city folk" from Louisville coming in trying to change state laws. The other hysterical law is the plumbing/sink issue. You can read more about that (and much more) here :

http://thenailthatsticksup.com/2011/07/18/morels-food-truck-success-struggle-and-all-things-in-between-interview/

I wonder if the fact that you are paying for the space makes any difference? Or if you actually owned it? It seems like it would be very different than just setting up someplace. It seems like it should basically put you in the same category as a restaurant! I'm sure the regulators don't see it that way but by using common sense (I know politicians don't have any) you would think that would put you in a different category especially since you lease it all the time.

No it doesnt matter. Trucks and Trailers are all under the same rules and there are no stipulations. Ray Robinson owned his own car wash at 1401 Bardstown Road for 30 years free and clear and he did BBQ competitions on the weekends, when the economy got tough he started selling BBQ on his own car wash property. If it wasnt the health department it was the IPL. He told me he put thousands into modifying his smoker the way they wanted it and they still came and shut him down, all as a result of local restaurants calling and complaining. He sold all his property here and moved to Lexington and does a killer gourmet dog buscuit business. Pumping that sales tax revenue into Fayette County instead.

I'm pretty sure you're technically not supposed to set up within 250 ft. of another restaurant.

Thats not health department, they dont have anything on paper that I have seen about location rules. Just health and wellness rules and the 14 day thing.

The idea is that it's supposed to protect brick and mortar establishments from a truck setting up shop in front of or near them, while they're paying rent, for their building. Blah blah.

Blah Blah is absolutely right. I have heard the lease/property tax argument many times and my only response is a list of the things I am responsible for annually. 2 sets of brakes or more, 2 sets of tires, regular oil changes (and you cant just go to a jiffy lube with a 10K lb truck) regular lube jobs, shocks and struts, alternator and battery, generator and power inversion maintenence which usually includes replacing deep cycle marine batteries and power inverters when they blow. The list goes on but I am already boring people... I utilze local small businesses to get these things done if I don't do them myself. I am pumping money into the community too.

I'm 99% sure its a state law. The way I understand it is the good people in Frankfort don't take well to "city folk" from Louisville coming in trying to change state laws. The other hysterical law is the plumbing/sink issue. You can read more about that (and much more) here :

The moving every 14 days is the state health department and its based on festivals and events so gypsy vendors couldnt set up camp and stay there for weeks after the event or try and come back for no reason. Its not changed since then and I think they do see it as brick and mortar protection but I am not real clear how it protects them when all you need to do is move across the street. The IPL is who holds the rules on how far you can sit from a restaurant, church, school, etc... these rules are still in place even with the new IPL permit for mobile food operations.

Stan I think the advice about getting political is the only way to make this happen and it wont happen quickly. City Councilman Jerry Miller in District 19 contacted me and one of his constituents wants to do a food truck. He can probably set us on the right path. Even better, Brandon Coen from Greg Fischers office.

Currently being the key word there.

As much as I hate to admit it, I have to agree with Steve P here. The riff raff is already out there and many of us have already had negative experiences with the rogue mobile food operators locally. These riff raff have actually been around longer than most of us and have been operating outside the bounds of legality for a while. None of them are in trucks, they are all trailer operations and poorly made to boot.

Just ask Adam Colvin with Busta Grill... he already had to have one run off for trying to steal his corner.

Just curious, what makes a mobile food vendor riff raff or rogue? I haven't seen any Palin trunks. DD

IMO, rogue = no health dept inspections and no IPL licenses. Everyone should play on the same even field.

Just curious, what makes a mobile food vendor riff raff or rogue? I haven't seen any Palin trunks. DD

When a guy pulls up with a wooden trailer with store bought grills on it and hes been slopping raw meat around a wooden trailer then he clearly isnt complying with the health department. When he is sitting on the street partially parked on the sidewalk then he is definitely not compliant with the IPL... I would call that an illegitimate operation A.K.A. riff raff or rogue

and if that was a Sarah Palin reference or joke I am not political in the least.

Blah Blah is absolutely right. I have heard the lease/property tax argument many times and my only response is a list of the things I am responsible for annually. 2 sets of brakes or more, 2 sets of tires,

Must be some damn cheap tires and brakes (and struts, etc)...Whatta ya gettin out of a set of tires and brakes ? 1000...maybe 1200 miles ?

Just ask Adam Colvin with Busta Grill... he already had to have one run off for trying to steal his corner.

Am I the only one who sees the irony in this ?

[Robin Garr]

Am I the only one who sees the irony in this ?

Maybe?

Am I the only one who sees the irony in this ?

Maybe?

Maybe number two.

Am I the only one who sees the irony in this ?

yes.

Ya know what. Steve is the exact reason I dont even want to come on these forums anymore.

I was a man, I agreed even though I dont like him, he still made a valid point. When I make them he just wants to be a dick and start shit.

Robin, I love ya man but I am not coming back here anymore. I have so many things I have to accomplish in a day and sitting around getting flamed on forums just arent what I want.

Someone else (in another post) was even afraid to complain about some of the attitudes on here but didnt want to for fear that it would just start more shit.... which it would. With some of these people its not about business, its not about restaurants and its not about food. Once they decide that they dont like your opinions that means they dont like you and ANYTHING you say they will argue the negative.

Congrats Steve, you are the king of the message boards. Loser.

Ya know what. Steve is the exact reason I dont even want to come on these forums anymore.

Congrats Steve, you are the king of the message boards. Loser.

<shrugs>...Whatever.