Shawn Vest
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Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:10 pm
850 main street, charlestown, indiana
Steve H wrote:All that being said, I'm ready to do my share toward keeping the Bourbon Barrel Nitro Porter inventory in check.
Brian Curl wrote:Steve H wrote:Steve, it's my opinion so you can't say it's wrong. I get no beer flavor from the BBC bourbon barrel, the bourbon flavor is overpowering IMO.
Matthew D
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Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:22 am
No Longer Old Louisville
Shawn Vest wrote:Matthew D.
Part 1 - I think $5.50 is unreasonable throughout most of Louisville for a standard craft beer. There are exceptions though, specifically at sporting/concert events where I believe $5.50 is a bargain.
Part 2 - What influences the cost of draft beer?
Here are the major contributing factors:
1 -Beer Cost by the ounce (there are discounts given for buying in volume, but most restaurants do not have room to store 5 extra kegs of one type of beer) - Restaurants in Kentucky all pay the same price for beer, the only exception would be in quantity deals and those discounts are usually not very much. The cost of beer is different in Indiana than in Kentucky, but the overall difference is pretty small.
2 - Cost of the "privilege to serve beer" - various license fees must be paid on an annual basis not only for the businesses to serve alcohol, but for each employee to serve as well. Additionally, the fees for the business vary widely depending on the location.
3 - Labor - Not just the person serving your beer, but also the person who ordered those beers from the distributor and the person washing the glassware.
4 - Basic costs of operation - rent, electricity, equipment, etc.
Overall, the cost/price of beer is no different than any other equation in a restaurant. However beer/wine/alcohol sales are an ideal solution to balance fluctuations in the cost of other items.
It may be more effective to raise the price of beer, rather than to raise the prices of other items on the menu.
Beer/wine/alcohol sales are higher profit items for most restaurants and are often used to buffer the fluctuations that occur in the cost of other goods.
For example, cheese (mozzarella and provolone) are often priced according to the "market value" and can fluctuate widely over the course of the year, where as the cost of beer will may only have one or two increases during a year.
Just my two pennies worth
Shawn
Brian Curl wrote:Love bourbon Steve. If I want to taste straight bourbon I'll drink bourbon. If I'm drinking a beer flavored with bourbon I'd like to taste beer first and prominently and bourbon second to enhance the beer. That's not the case with the BBC product.
Shawn Vest wrote:Part 1 - I think $5.50 is unreasonable throughout most of Louisville for a standard craft beer. There are exceptions though, specifically at sporting/concert events where I believe $5.50 is a bargain.
Robin Garr wrote:Shawn Vest wrote:Part 1 - I think $5.50 is unreasonable throughout most of Louisville for a standard craft beer. There are exceptions though, specifically at sporting/concert events where I believe $5.50 is a bargain.
In the Invisible Craft Beer Booth at Slugger Field, 12-ounce cups of BBC Pale Ale, Cumberland Red Ale and Falls City are $5.75. Of course, Swill and Swill Lite aren't exactly cheap at the ball park.
Brad Keeton wrote:Robin Garr wrote:Shawn Vest wrote:Part 1 - I think $5.50 is unreasonable throughout most of Louisville for a standard craft beer. There are exceptions though, specifically at sporting/concert events where I believe $5.50 is a bargain.
In the Invisible Craft Beer Booth at Slugger Field, 12-ounce cups of BBC Pale Ale, Cumberland Red Ale and Falls City are $5.75. Of course, Swill and Swill Lite aren't exactly cheap at the ball park.
Oh - I'm going tonight and haven't been in awhile. Remind where ICBB is located, please. Thanks.
Steve H wrote:The old Pipkin version was too strong occasionally, but the bourbon flavor in it seemed to fluctuate significantly. The BBC versions have always been stellar, IMHO. If they only made an Imperial version....
All that being said, I'm ready to do my share toward keeping the Bourbon Barrel Nitro Porter inventory in check.
Getting back on topic, it's hard to argue about $5-6 craft beers, when Bud Light costs you $3-4.
David R. Pierce wrote:Steve H wrote:The old Pipkin version was too strong occasionally, but the bourbon flavor in it seemed to fluctuate significantly. The BBC versions have always been stellar, IMHO. If they only made an Imperial version....
All that being said, I'm ready to do my share toward keeping the Bourbon Barrel Nitro Porter inventory in check.
Getting back on topic, it's hard to argue about $5-6 craft beers, when Bud Light costs you $3-4.
The Pipkin version was straight, un-cut barrel aged stout. BBC's regular BB Stout is 50/50 barrel-aged and fresh unbarreled stout. The blending creates a far more consistent product IMHO. BBC releases Big Fella once or twice a year which is the equivalent to Pipkin BB Stout.
Brad Keeton wrote:Oh - I'm going tonight and haven't been in awhile. Remind where ICBB is located, please. Thanks.
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