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Re: Local restaurant owner facing federal charges

by Derrick Dones » Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:20 pm

Collectively, the posts in this "string" are why I really enjoy this forum.

Well said everyone...very different perspectives and perceptions, but we all (usually) manage to hash things out in a sensible way allowing differing viewpoints to be heard, debated and sometimes championed or debunked.

Again, I hope things turn out for the best concerning Majid, as he seems to be a stand-up guy who probably let a situation and emotions get the best of him.

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Re: Local restaurant owner facing federal charges

by Matt C » Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:21 pm

i worked with him and know that the guy he threatend is a scum bag punk , who tried to hurt his family , who uses the law to protect himself ,while trying to destroy the person most close to majid. .now leaving anybody a threat on voicemail or text is a really really really bad bad idea thou , and im sure majid was just trying to get the guy to leave his family alone because the law couldnt do it . and got bit him in the ass , damn shame because the person he made the threats to should be the one on trial not him,
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Re: Local restaurant owner facing federal charges

by Stephen D » Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:32 pm

MattC wrote:i worked with him and know that the guy he threatend is a scum bag punk , who tried to hurt his family , who uses the law to protect himself ,while trying to destroy the person most close to majid. .now leaving anybody a threat on voicemail or text is a really really really bad bad idea thou , and im sure majid was just trying to get the guy to leave his family alone because the law couldnt do it . and got bit him in the ass , damn shame because the person he made the threats to should be the one on trial not him,


He'd give it all away for his girls. Wouldn't bat an eye. It's this quality that makes him a great employer and a greater restauranteur. Simply shake the man's hand and look him in the eye. It's that simple.
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Re: Local restaurant owner facing federal charges

by Steve Shade » Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:19 pm

Stephen D wrote:
He'd give it all away for his girls. Wouldn't bat an eye. It's this quality that makes him a great employer and a greater restauranteur. Simply shake the man's hand and look him in the eye. It's that simple.


Knowing Majid, you are absolutely right Stephen.
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conclusive evidence that you are wonderful."
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Re: Local restaurant owner facing federal charges

by Brian Curl » Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:25 pm

Stephen, I have no opinion on the charges, his innocence or guilt. My bizarre comment was more directed at threatening messages left on a voicemail.

I believe what has been said about the scumbag that provoked these messages and that Majid is a good guy. I am sure it is possible that Majid did not know the consequences or the law. It's unfortunate, but many times criminals or "street smart" people know how to manipulate the system and use it against good people.

I believe if it comes out that this guy has a bad reputation/record and was being harassing that there is a good chance that Majid will be exonerated.
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Re: Local restaurant owner facing federal charges

by Stephen D » Wed Jul 20, 2011 4:04 pm

Brian Curl wrote:Stephen, I have no opinion on the charges, his innocence or guilt. My bizarre comment was more directed at threatening messages left on a voicemail.

I believe what has been said about the scumbag that provoked these messages and that Majid is a good guy. I am sure it is possible that Majid did not know the consequences or the law. It's unfortunate, but many times criminals or "street smart" people know how to manipulate the system and use it against good people.

I believe if it comes out that this guy has a bad reputation/record and was being harassing that there is a good chance that Majid will be exonerated.


M'k, let me get this straight:

You endangered a person's professional life, because?

You made an obviously inflamatory post, because?

You qualified your action with an open-ended word, shading your intent, because?

That's the damn problem. Eat it up, smartass.
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Re: Local restaurant owner facing federal charges

by Robin Garr » Wed Jul 20, 2011 4:15 pm

Stephen D wrote:That's the damn problem. Eat it up, smartass.

Get a room, you guys. :oops:
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Re: Local restaurant owner facing federal charges

by Stephen D » Wed Jul 20, 2011 4:34 pm

Brian's a great guy, but I must call into question his intentions and the 'looking down the pipe' tone he had towards me. Every word I said was heartfelt and true (to me.)

What did I just preach about? Have been on the podium for quite sometime. He's never met the man, yet he is so willing, so enthusiastic to take this life (30 years, mind you) away from him.

A concillatory 'blah-blah' only hides the true nature of the statement. You do this good, I've heard good about, people tell me that, yet you kick your dog.

All you remember is that I kick my dog.

Oldest trick in the book.

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Re: Local restaurant owner facing federal charges

by Brian Curl » Wed Jul 20, 2011 4:46 pm

I have no idea what got you riled up Stephen but my posts have been non judgemental and supportive.

However I live in reality, when or if laws are broken it can get folks into trouble, regardless of the intent or circumstances.
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Re: Local restaurant owner facing federal charges

by Stephen D » Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:01 pm

Brian Curl wrote:I have no idea what got you riled up Stephen but my posts have been non judgemental and supportive.

However I live in reality, when or if laws are broken it can get folks into trouble, regardless of the intent or circumstances.


Sure. The reality is that your comments here cost a restaurant unforetold dollars in revenue. Wake up to this fact. These are just words on a page to you. To us, it represents food on the plate. Just one person takes $35 out of our pockets. Minus costs, that is still dinner at Mi Patria...

PS. Read back over your posts, I'll be happy to accept your apolagies whenever given.
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Re: Local restaurant owner facing federal charges

by Adam Robinson » Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:18 pm

Did some posts get deleted or edited? I can't find what has started this big argument between you two? What was the bizarre accusation in question?

If there's some history here I'm missing, my apologies. But from what I'm reading I can't quite tell where this upset is coming from.
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Re: Local restaurant owner facing federal charges

by Adam Robinson » Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:22 pm

Stephen, if you're upset he put it here, I think you're doing more harm then good. This was covered by Wave3 and Whas11. Additionally, it popped up in my "Local" section on Google News earlier. It's not some hidden story that was magically brought to light. Again, as I stated previously, the fact that it wasn't mentioned here looked worse than it being here to begin with.

I can only assume from your comments you think he's harmed business by having mentioned it. What is that you would have preferred? The links online make him look like a raving lunatic. Is that the only side of this you think the average person (re: me, who doesn't post here much, but keeps up on the local scene) to see?

If I hadn't seen this thread here and your initial response, I would have had no reason to but assume the worst, for reasons already stated, as just what's in the news links is pretty damning. I've never met the guy (outside of a hello), and have no way of knowing anything about him.

The mediating comments here and the background completely re-frame the situation.

I'd hazard to say the thread here is exactly what was needed to help those of us who aren't friends or ex co-workers to have any idea what is actually going on.
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Re: Local restaurant owner facing federal charges

by Antonia L » Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:26 pm

Adam Robinson wrote:Stephen, if you're upset he put it here,


Stephen D wrote:It's actually a good thing that we hash this out in the court of public opinion, before this familly's welfare is hurt.


I'm not sure the exact nature of all that's going on, which is fine, because it's not really my business, beyond the fact that I have the highest opinion of Majid and what a fantastic restaurateur he is. But it doesn't seem like Stephen's upset that we're talking about it and clarifying things.
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Re: Local restaurant owner facing federal charges

by Adam Robinson » Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:28 pm

Antonia L wrote:
Adam Robinson wrote:Stephen, if you're upset he put it here,


Stephen D wrote:It's actually a good thing that we hash this out in the court of public opinion, before this familly's welfare is hurt.


I'm not sure the exact nature of all that's going on, which is fine, because it's not really my business, beyond the fact that I have the highest opinion of Majid and what a fantastic restaurateur he is. But it doesn't seem like Stephen's upset that we're talking about it and clarifying things.


Then what is he yelling at the other guy about? I've read the initial posts ten times now. Where are the bizarre accusations and inflammatory things leading to loss of business?
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Re: Local restaurant owner facing federal charges

by Stephen D » Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:36 pm

It's already happened, brau.

As the joke goes, you can be the man that 'built the fence, the house and the meadow, but they will always remember you as the man who screwed the goat.'

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