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Re: Doc Crow's

by Caroline K » Sat Feb 12, 2011 3:02 pm

Stopped by late last night for a nightcap...WOW! Got a tour from Brett and was very impressed! Can't wait to go EAT there on Monday!!! :D
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by Steve P » Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:54 pm

Madeline Peters wrote:Huh! I looked at Mark and I said I think that is Steve. I had only met Steve and Ed once. Not sure if they would know what I look like. Hey Robin...now I know what you look like 8)


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by Ryan Rogers » Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:56 pm

I went in today for lunch and the food was all on point.
The oysters and bourbon mignonette were definitely the highlight of the meal. Their house BBQ sauce was also very good. Everything that was smoked (cherry, hickory, and oak I was told) had a light smoke flavor and if you like a smoke that isn't very strong I think you'll really enjoy the food. I personally enjoy a heavier smoke flavor and bolder flavors, but I think at their price point, with a very well put together menu, and being right next to the arena they will do really well.
I had the brisket tacos, pulled pork sandwich, st. louis ribs, pork rinds, top shelf burger, shrimp and oyster po-boy, and of course the fanny bay oysters.
I have a hollow leg or two. :wink:
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by Madeline Peters » Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:13 am

I think you are drinking a beer. Was it a craft beer?
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by Madeline Peters » Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:14 am

Ryan Rogers wrote:I went in today for lunch and the food was all on point.
The oysters and bourbon mignonette were definitely the highlight of the meal. Their house BBQ sauce was also very good. Everything that was smoked (cherry, hickory, and oak I was told) had a light smoke flavor and if you like a smoke that isn't very strong I think you'll really enjoy the food. I personally enjoy a heavier smoke flavor and bolder flavors, but I think at their price point, with a very well put together menu, and being right next to the arena they will do really well.
I had the brisket tacos, pulled pork sandwich, st. louis ribs, pork rinds, top shelf burger, shrimp and oyster po-boy, and of course the fanny bay oysters.
I have a hollow leg or two. :wink:



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by Brett Davis » Sun Feb 13, 2011 9:16 pm

Madeline Peters wrote:
Ryan Rogers wrote:I went in today for lunch and the food was all on point.
The oysters and bourbon mignonette were definitely the highlight of the meal. Their house BBQ sauce was also very good. Everything that was smoked (cherry, hickory, and oak I was told) had a light smoke flavor and if you like a smoke that isn't very strong I think you'll really enjoy the food. I personally enjoy a heavier smoke flavor and bolder flavors, but I think at their price point, with a very well put together menu, and being right next to the arena they will do really well.
I had the brisket tacos, pulled pork sandwich, st. louis ribs, pork rinds, top shelf burger, shrimp and oyster po-boy, and of course the fanny bay oysters.
I have a hollow leg or two. :wink:



No way....that was just you!


I witnessed it. I have to admit it was pretty impressive. The staff thought he had to be a food writer.

Thanks for the good reports all. It was a tough first weekend and we appreciate all of you who were understanding and patient with us in our first (extremely busy) three days.

We look forward to seeing you.
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Re: Doc Crow's

by Matthew D » Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:03 am

On the issue of historical preservation:

http://thevillevoice.com/2011/02/10/take-a-look-at-whiskey-row-then-and-now/

It's one thing if the buildings are not salvageable. It's another thing if the the city and the owner were in cahoots to get them to a point where they could become a parking lot.
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Re: Doc Crow's

by DanB » Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:59 am

Just my $0.02 from the cheap seats but I think Louisville's ire at this Blue fellow is just deflecting away from Louisville's collective guilt in not doing a damned thing to save these buildings from rotting. How long have they been falling apart? 30 years? And nobody did a damned thing about it. No preservation groups, no citizens groups, nobody in government. You, me, and everybody in town is at fault, not the guy who owned it for the last couple of years.
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by Robin Garr » Tue Feb 15, 2011 8:29 am

DanB wrote:Just my $0.02 from the cheap seats but I think Louisville's ire at this Blue fellow is just deflecting away from Louisville's collective guilt in not doing a damned thing to save these buildings from rotting. How long have they been falling apart? 30 years? And nobody did a damned thing about it. No preservation groups, no citizens groups, nobody in government. You, me, and everybody in town is at fault, not the guy who owned it for the last couple of years.

Thanks for the view from Frankfurt, Dan. :roll:
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Re: Doc Crow's

by JustinHammond » Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:38 am

My $.01.

I don't care what happens to these buildings either way, but was curious as to what was so special about them. After looking up what these buildings were used for I don't get it. I not a big believer that just because something is old it should be classified as historic.

We are talking warehouses, pork packing plants, and manufacturing plants, not Churchill Downs.

Keep the taxpayers money out of it and let the owner do what he wants. Prick, slumloard, or not, it’s his money and he should be able to do what he wants with his property. People complain about buildings sitting empty and rotting, but then complain when someone wants to do something with them. These buildings were useless until the arena came downtown. I'm not buying that someone let them rott for the fun of it; but they rotted because up keep or use was economicaly unsound.

This reminds me of the dump next to Genny’s.

105 West Main Street
various other whiskey merchants
contracting, accounting and paper manufacturing businesses
coin dealership
variety of nightclubs


107-109 West Main Street
J.T.S. Brown & Sons
wholesale grocery company
Englehard & Sons coffee roasters

111 West Main Street
pork-packing company
provision brokers
woolen mill
warehouse for Bacon’s Department Store

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distilleries

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Re: Doc Crow's

by Steve P » Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:23 am

Matthew D wrote:On the issue of historical preservation:

http://thevillevoice.com/2011/02/10/take-a-look-at-whiskey-row-then-and-now/

It's one thing if the buildings are not salvageable. It's another thing if the the city and the owner were in cahoots to get them to a point where they could become a parking lot.


Personally, I don't see the addition of plywood covering the windows as evidence of a conspiracy between a property owner and the city. If I were a betting man I would put my money on it having something to do with liability and might have very well been an insurance requirement.
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Re: Doc Crow's

by DanB » Tue Feb 15, 2011 12:32 pm

Bit snarky, eh Robin? Fact of the matter is, the entire city watched these buildings rot and did nothing. The Blue guy is a convenient scapegoat to assuage everyone's guilt.

/I apologize in advance for having an opinion while living 4000 miles from what is still home. Hope no one's too offended.
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by Robin Garr » Tue Feb 15, 2011 12:55 pm

DanB wrote:I apologize in advance for having an opinion while living 4000 miles from what is still home. Hope no one's too offended.

Nothing to apologize for, Dan. I can't help noticing that you're an expat and that you seem to have decidedly mixed opinions about your old home town, but hey, that's your business, not mine.
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Re: Doc Crow's

by Matthew D » Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:11 pm

Steve P wrote:
Matthew D wrote:On the issue of historical preservation:

http://thevillevoice.com/2011/02/10/take-a-look-at-whiskey-row-then-and-now/

It's one thing if the buildings are not salvageable. It's another thing if the the city and the owner were in cahoots to get them to a point where they could become a parking lot.


Personally, I don't see the addition of plywood covering the windows as evidence of a conspiracy between a property owner and the city. If I were a betting man I would put my money on it having something to do with liability and might have very well been an insurance requirement.


I have no evidence whatsoever for my claim (other than my disdain for both involved parties), but I'm standing by my argument that the plan was to always make this a parking lot.
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Re: Doc Crow's

by Joel H » Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:49 pm

JustinHammond wrote:My $.01.

I don't care what happens to these buildings either way, but was curious as to what was so special about them. After looking up what these buildings were used for I don't get it. I not a big believer that just because something is old it should be classified as historic.

We are talking warehouses, pork packing plants, and manufacturing plants, not Churchill Downs.


Ever been to Soho, in New York City? The beautiful cast-iron buildings there are much like the ones we have on Main Street, and many of them had the same original industrial uses. Had they not been preserved, in the 1950s New York would have built an incredibly ugly and wasteful expressway running right through what is now arguably some of the best, most productive real estate/retail centers in Manhattan. It seems really ridiculous to claim that the original use of these buildings is the reason why they shouldn't be preserved, since clearly they can still be of use.

As for the shoddy argument that it's everybody in Louisville's fault that these buildings weren't preserved, I have to admit, I'm very sorry I'm not a real estate developer with millions of dollars to redevelop Whiskey Row. Maybe if I had held a cake sale 30 years ago...

Perhaps the problem with Downtown Louisville to begin with is that there's never been any truly coherent ideas about redeveloping it from our political leaders. In the past 15 years, urban centers all across America were attracting people, becoming revitalized as residential, urban, and office centers. That doesn't seem to be the case in Louisville, where the only "vision" our most recent leader had was to hire an outside company to build a chintzy half-block for tourists, nearly identical to every other half-block said company had already built elsewhere. Louisville needs a true Downtown development plan, one that emphasizes what great history we have. Sadly, I don't think our current mayor has any more sense of vision or leadership than the previous one.
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