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Re: CNN v Fox News

by Kyle L » Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:29 am

All news is bias. Just pick the one you like the best.
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Re: CNN v Fox News

by Michael Mattingly » Fri Aug 13, 2010 11:35 am

I'm honestly more shocked by the fact that someone that owns a business would think that it's a good idea to have Fox News on in said business, knowing that it's so controversial & offensive to so many people, than I am that someone complained about it. You may love Fox News & you may think that Glenn Beck is Christ resurrected but there's no denying the fact that this channel represents something very negative for a lot of people (regardless of whether or not those feelings have any validity). You'd be smart to avoid the other side of the spectrum as well (e.g: MSNBC). There's a reason that these channels are on cable news. I would suggest doing a little research (statistics on this subject are available via the web) & changing to something more neutral.

I was in a doctor's office that was playing the 700 Club on the day when Pat Robertson made his controversial claims about Haiti. I can't fathom how a business owner could possibly think that this program being on could be a good idea. The same show was on the next 2 times I was in there as well. The girls behind the desk were flaunting their religion & actually discussing the show on one of these occasions. The customer should never be put in a position where they have to that they're offended by something that's so obviously offensive to so many people.

...& to those of you that would just shrug your shoulders at this customer's complaint as if he should just get over it...that's really stupid from a business standpoint. You have absolutely no idea who this person is, who he knows & how far he'll take his criticism. I've seen some pretty nasty restaurant bashing via the net & in social gatherings & if you think that people don't read that stuff, you're naive at best.
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Re: CNN v Fox News

by Eve Lee » Fri Aug 13, 2010 11:52 am

Michael S wrote:Do customers really choose a restaurant based upon what channel is on the TV?


Michael Mattingly wrote:I'm honestly more shocked by the fact that someone that owns a business would think that it's a good idea to have Fox News on in said business, knowing that it's so controversial & offensive to so many people, than I am that someone complained about it...I've seen some pretty nasty restaurant bashing via the net & in social gatherings & if you think that people don't read that stuff, you're naive at best.


For what it's worth, Michael S., by putting out there that you are fine with Fox being on in your establishment, you've pretty much guaranteed that I will never patronize it. Nothing personal, really; I appreciate the warning. No worries, either—as Michael M. said, people read the Web and you probably gained three new customers for every potential two you lost, all things being equal among voting lines in Kentucky (among those who care).

Also, Burning Bush, Fox News...sounds like a place a conservative would want to check out after observing the Sabbath. :D
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Re: CNN v Fox News

by Terri Beam » Fri Aug 13, 2010 11:58 am

Tbh, I've been wondering WHEN TVs in restaurants became almost mandatory. I can understand their presence in bars/sports pubs/etc, but why are they needed in a more formal dining situation?

My guess is 9-11 programmed many of us to look for that news crawler at the bottom of the screen so now we feel like we must have that EVERYWHERE. I'm not a big sports fan, but if I'm in a restaurant with TVs, my eyes gravitate toward the screen whether I like it or not. That irks me. Why should we be programmed to NEED to see what's playing? Even when the sound is turned down, I will catch myself reading the closed captioning. :roll:

I don't even watch TV when I'm at home unless there's a weather emergency or other disaster!

I prefer restaurants that have no TV at all, but it's impossible to avoid the boob tube. I wouldn't ask the staff to change channels, but I have been known to ask to have the volume turned down if it was interfering with conversation.

Now a doctors office displaying Pat Robertson? That's a bit over the top. I thought the same thing about the TVs in the restrooms at Yangkee Noodle. As a society, we're just way too attached to those things.

Would I refuse to dine at an establishment with an "offensive" channel playing? If the volume is not turned up, it wouldn't bother me at all. I don't go out to eat to make political statements. If the food is good, I'll be back. If I'm so politically sensitive that closed captioning even offends me, I have bigger issues.
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Re: CNN v Fox News

by Will Crawford » Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:03 pm

We do not have TV's in the restaurant unless it is Derby Day. That is the only programming we play. I think TV and dinning do not mix. No matter what is on your eyes will travel to the screen and away from your dinning partner.
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Re: CNN v Fox News

by Robin Garr » Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:55 pm

[quote="Michael Mattingly"]I was in a doctor's office that was playing the 700 Club on the day when Pat Robertson made his controversial claims about Haiti. ... The same show was on the next 2 times I was in there as well. The girls behind the desk were flaunting their religion & actually discussing the show on one of these occasions.
Do you really like the doctor? That situation would have me doctor-shopping in a hurry.
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Re: CNN v Fox News

by John Greenup » Fri Aug 13, 2010 1:14 pm

Eve Bohakel Lee wrote:
Michael S wrote:Do customers really choose a restaurant based upon what channel is on the TV?


Michael Mattingly wrote:I'm honestly more shocked by the fact that someone that owns a business would think that it's a good idea to have Fox News on in said business, knowing that it's so controversial & offensive to so many people, than I am that someone complained about it...I've seen some pretty nasty restaurant bashing via the net & in social gatherings & if you think that people don't read that stuff, you're naive at best.


For what it's worth, Michael S., by putting out there that you are fine with Fox being on in your establishment, you've pretty much guaranteed that I will never patronize it. Nothing personal, really; I appreciate the warning. No worries, either—as Michael M. said, people read the Web and you probably gained three new customers for every potential two you lost, all things being equal among voting lines in Kentucky (among those who care).

Also, Burning Bush, Fox News...sounds like a place a conservative would want to check out after observing the Sabbath. :D


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Re: CNN v Fox News

by Will Gaines » Fri Aug 13, 2010 1:19 pm

You should take note from Michael Jordan. I believe he once said something like both republicans and democrats buy tennis shoes, which was his explanation why he never commented on political issues. The propaganda and bias being spewed out by Fox News creates problems in this country, and personally I would not eat at a place that chose to televise that junk either (personal opinion and I am not here to engage in political debate, just offering my opinion based on the original post). There are simply too many good places in town that I could easily pick any place and say I will never go there again. This may sound ridiculous to some, but certain people such as myself will go out of their way to support certain principles.
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Re: CNN v Fox News

by John Greenup » Fri Aug 13, 2010 1:23 pm

Robin Garr wrote:
Michael Mattingly wrote:I was in a doctor's office that was playing the 700 Club on the day when Pat Robertson made his controversial claims about Haiti. ... The same show was on the next 2 times I was in there as well. The girls behind the desk were flaunting their religion & actually discussing the show on one of these occasions.
Do you really like the doctor? That situation would have me doctor-shopping in a hurry.


Obviously, that's a decision each person has to make based on their sensitivities. I'm hardly a fan of Mr. Robertson or the 700 Club, but unless my MD (or her staff) was in the habit of openly sharing their religious faith with patients, simply having that program on in the waiting room isn't likely to bother me...and if I'm the only patient waiting, I'm not shy about simply changing the channel and watching something else.
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Re: CNN v Fox News

by Eve Lee » Fri Aug 13, 2010 1:31 pm

My first thought would be about how faith-based the medical practice is. Which comes first there?
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Re: CNN v Fox News

by Michael Mattingly » Fri Aug 13, 2010 1:33 pm

Robin Garr wrote:
Michael Mattingly wrote:I was in a doctor's office that was playing the 700 Club on the day when Pat Robertson made his controversial claims about Haiti. ... The same show was on the next 2 times I was in there as well. The girls behind the desk were flaunting their religion & actually discussing the show on one of these occasions.
Do you really like the doctor? That situation would have me doctor-shopping in a hurry.


I no longer go to that doctor but I'm actually starting to believe that this is more common than I had imagined because they play the same show in my wife's OBGYN office. I noticed the other day when I went w/ her for an ultrasound. We don't really want to switch doctors this far in to the pregnancy & while we do find it offensive we're more worried about causing a scene because the place is always packed w/ people that seem to really enjoy it. The volume is up pretty loud too. She's not familiar w/ the program (she's from another country) & tends to read while she waits so she didn't really notice what type of show it was or what type of things he says on said show until I mentioned it to her but she did say that she recognized Mr. Robertson's face because he's always on when she goes there.
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Re: CNN v Fox News

by John Greenup » Fri Aug 13, 2010 1:37 pm

Eve Bohakel Lee wrote:A certain local chain plays Christian music on Sundays at the behest of the owner. I am not a fan of 'Jesus music,' so I simply don't go there on Sundays. Agree to disagree.


Your post reminds me of an article I read awhile back about a McDonald's in Dayton, TN (site of the "Scopes Monkey Trial" in the 1920's) that hosted LIVE gospel music performances in their restaurant during certain nights of the week. Would that keep you from patronizing Mickey D's (their menu notwithstanding)? I'm not sure...if I needed a Big Mac fix and that was the only McD in town, I suppose if all they did was play music, it wouldn't bother me. But, if they started interacting with the guests and calling for people to witness, etc., I would be out the door and likely not return. That's not a reflection of my religious beliefs, but there's a time and a place for certain things in life.
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Re: CNN v Fox News

by Alison Hanover » Fri Aug 13, 2010 1:41 pm

my questions are: Did he stay and eat, or walk out? Never having watched Fox News I have no idea what the fuss is about. Is it biased to one political party? Personally, I go to a restaurant to eat, if I want to watch TV, I stay at home.
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Re: CNN v Fox News

by John Greenup » Fri Aug 13, 2010 1:57 pm

Alison Hanover wrote:my questions are: Did he stay and eat, or walk out? Never having watched Fox News I have no idea what the fuss is about. Is it biased to one political party? Personally, I go to a restaurant to eat, if I want to watch TV, I stay at home.


Whether one thinks FoxNews is biased is likely driven by their individual political leanings. The tagline for FoxNews is, "Fair and Balanced" -- many agree, while others do not, and regard it as little more than a propaganda outlet for poltical Conservatism.
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Re: CNN v Fox News

by Kyle L » Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:19 pm

Wow.

This is just...unfathomable. Now, I've seen it all.
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