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Re: Free range lion burgers

by Bill P » Sat Jun 26, 2010 7:04 am

Alison Hanover wrote:As an almost vegetarian..... can't quite give up the bacon.....I find this a little disturbing. It always amuses me when people say "I've never had lamb, don't think I want to try it." I say, "Well you eat deer don't you?" Lamb is very common in England, but I never see it in the Supermarkets here. Why is that?


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I think there are at least a couple of reasons you don't see lamb in our part of Indiana:
First off, this is generally cattle country and farmers/ranchers have generally felt that cattle and sheep/lamb don't coexist well. The sheep are felt to be more destructive on pasture land. Thus people have not been exposed to the meat and ranchers help perpetuate a bias against lamb and how it tastes. My wife, who never had lamb until we married. Her father raised cattle and hogs wouldn't have lamb on the farm or at the table.
Secondly, I asked why no lamb to the meat manager at a Corydon supermarket and he said it didn't sell because their was little demand and people, it is expensive and the people in this area can't afford it.
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Re: Free range lion burgers

by Carla G » Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:43 am

Bill P wrote:
Alison Hanover wrote:As an almost vegetarian..... can't quite give up the bacon.....I find this a little disturbing. It always amuses me when people say "I've never had lamb, don't think I want to try it." I say, "Well you eat deer don't you?" Lamb is very common in England, but I never see it in the Supermarkets here. Why is that?


Alison-
I think there are at least a couple of reasons you don't see lamb in our part of Indiana:
First off, this is generally cattle country and farmers/ranchers have generally felt that cattle and sheep/lamb don't coexist well. The sheep are felt to be more destructive on pasture land. Thus people have not been exposed to the meat and ranchers help perpetuate a bias against lamb and how it tastes. My wife, who never had lamb until we married. Her father raised cattle and hogs wouldn't have lamb on the farm or at the table.
Secondly, I asked why no lamb to the meat manager at a Corydon supermarket and he said it didn't sell because their was little demand and people, it is expensive and the people in this area can't afford it.
Bill


Actually, Carl Fischer Sr. (of the original Fischer meats) can take some credit for lamb's unpopularity here in Louisville. Fischer Meats started in Louisville in 1904. Not really sure when Carl Sr. was in control of the plant but I know he was in the 1940s. Mr. Fischer couldn't tolerate the plaintive bleating of sheep as they were being led to slaughter so he discontinued the slaughtering of sheep at the plant.
Louisville was primarily a pork producing town anyway with few houses slaughtering lambs. With Fischer Meats no longer slaughtering sheep it just became scarce and pricey.
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Re: Free range lion burgers

by Robin Garr » Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:52 am

Carla G wrote:Louisville was primarily a pork producing town anyway with few houses slaughtering lambs. With Fischer Meats no longer slaughtering sheep it just became scarce and pricey.

The other side of that coin, though, Carla, is that Western Kentucky is lamb-producing country, which is relatively rare in the U.S., so for that competing reason, lamb is *more* accepted here than in many places. I don't know where Kentucky lamb is turned into tasty chops and legs and such, but lamb is certainly not hard to find around town - although apparently that's not the case along I-64 in Southern Indiana, as Bill P and Alison say.
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Re: Free range lion burgers

by Lois Mauk » Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:16 am

My mother was born in the early 1920s and grew up in Clark County, Indiana. She told me they raised sheep all her life (till the guvment come and stole our farms to build the ammunition factor in 1940). But, she told me they never, ever ate lamb or mutton. They just sold them at market. I imagine they also sheared them for their wool.

I always found it odd that, as self-sufficient as my Grandma was, they had food "on the hoof" in the front yard but never ate it. Also, neither lamb nor mutton was ever served in our home while I was growing up.
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by Kyle L » Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:51 pm

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And now even Selogie is questioning whether the meat was fair game.

"I was led to believe they were not hunted, they were not shot, they were not abused," Selogie said. "I feel I was misled by this."
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Re: Free range lion burgers

by Paul Mick » Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:43 pm

JustinHammond wrote:That would make for an interesting race at Churchill, loser is dinner.


Or better yet, let the lion and the horse loose at the downs. Then they're both dinner!
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Re: Free range lion burgers

by Paul Mick » Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:44 pm

Stephen D wrote:Ya know, there's a whole line of aboriginal theology that dictates 'if you eat an animal, you are infused by that animal's essence.'


So that explains why I wanted to go outside and graze in the park after dinner last night...
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Re: Free range lion burgers

by Brad Keeton » Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:06 pm

Paul Mick wrote:
JustinHammond wrote:That would make for an interesting race at Churchill, loser is dinner.


Or better yet, let the lion and the horse loose at the downs. Then they're both dinner!


So, sort of letting nature create the lion/horse version of turducken? Probably a lot easier than trying to stuff the horse inside the lion by yourself.
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Re: Free range lion burgers

by Stephen D » Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:15 pm

Brad Keeton wrote:
Paul Mick wrote:
JustinHammond wrote:That would make for an interesting race at Churchill, loser is dinner.


Or better yet, let the lion and the horse loose at the downs. Then they're both dinner!


So, sort of letting nature create the lion/horse version of turducken? Probably a lot easier than trying to stuff the horse inside the lion by yourself.


That could be awkward, lol!

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Re: Free range lion burgers

by DanB » Mon Jun 28, 2010 5:07 am

Guess it would have to be a Western Cape Merlot, wouldn't it?
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Re: Free range lion burgers

by JustinHammond » Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:15 am

Jockey = Chicken in this new variation?
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Re: Free range lion burgers

by Stephen D » Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:06 am

JustinHammond wrote:Jockey = Chicken in this new variation?


Hehe, yeah that metaphor just has so many possibilities. Chicken to get on, chicken to get off, or simply chicken- it's what's for dinner.

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Re: Free range lion burgers

by Brad Keeton » Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:29 am

JustinHammond wrote:Jockey = Chicken in this new variation?


Well played.
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